RE: ashtanga yoga RE: yoga and climbing/time for yoga

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I was once in that place where I was practicing 2-3 hours daily, 5 times a

week. I did that for almost two years. Next thing I knew my son left for

Afghanistan and the war and my daughter moved out and returned to college.

I walked into their empty rooms and wondored where the days went. Now, I

look forward to my weekly calls, but it isn't the same and I can never get

back all the time that I choose not to be with them. So, now I have an 11

year-old at home still and playing cards or watching his football game is

the priority. I won't make the same mistake.

 

Enjoy your free time and your practice and climbing, but remember what

really counts.

Margee

>

> lawrence romanosky [sMTP:lromanosky]

> Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:31 PM

> ashtanga yoga

> ashtanga yoga RE: yoga and climbing/time for yoga

>

> I saw a dance performance on the ropes last year too.

> It was about 5km into Grotto Canyon, near Canmore. It

> was put on by a local company called Springboard.

> The ropes were secured and the dancers were clipped in

> about half way up, 15m. This was all done to the

> music of a cellest (sp?) in the boulder strewn canyon

> below. About 250 people showed up. It was a wonderful

> day.

>

> About time, I guess there is always *some* time for

> practice, and everybody must have a half hour or so

> per day, and that's enough for a material benefit.

>

> I'm not a great one to talk as I just make the time,

> usually 2 to 3 hours per day either climbing or yoga,

> and that means quite a bit of sacrafice. My condo is

> never really clean, my laundry piles up, I've put my

> car hobbies on hold, I don't get out much to the

> theatre anymore, don't read as much as I'd like, and

> I'm not touching on relationships (done that

> allready!) I just place at the very top of my

> priority list, my health, and I suppose personal

> ambition, and that's that. I'm concerned that this is

> a bit selfish (so my ex-girlfried says!) so that's a

> bit of a issue at the moment. Perhaps it will

> balance out more with age and other commitments.

>

> Cheers, Lawrence.

>

> --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart wrote:

> > That is very true and I had the pleasure of seeing

> > the rope dancers last

> > year at Cirqu de Soleil and it was magnificant !!

> > Unfortunately, I have a

> > fear of heights and don't think that rock climbing

> > would be my thing.

> > Though I do see where the mind-body connection would

> > come into play.

> > Ashtanga practice takes such dedication and time and

> > it is something that I

> > wish that I had learned before I got married and had

> > kids. I often wondor

> > what direction my life would have taken if I was

> > introduced to it much

> > earlier. Now, with my obligations, it can be very

> > difficult to put the time

> > in that I really need to get further along in the

> > practice. I haven't

> > practiced in awhile, and again, I miss it terribly.

> > Does anyone else have trouble balancing their "life"

> > and practice time?

> > Margee

> >

> > >

> > > jbrrr510 [sMTP:jbrrr510]

> > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:35 PM

> > > ashtanga yoga

> > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga and the

> > sexes...../yoga and

> > > climbing

> > >

> > > Yes dancers too! It's become a triangle I

> > suppose, as I've also

> > > known several excellent climbers whom are/were

> > dancers.

> > >

> > > With it being election day today in the states, it

> > makes me think

> > > it'd be an interseting poll to see what the most

> > common

> > > crossover "sports" applied to yoga practitioners.

> > I'm sure dance,

> > > climbing and gymnastics would be high on the list.

> > >

> > > Lawarence: I too have often wondered what the

> > degree of seperation

> > > was in the climbing community, and yoga community.

> > I've run into

> > > casual aquantinces from home at every climbing

> > area I've ever

> > > traveled to. Unforutnatly in yoga, we rarely

> > travel "to practice"

> > > they way climbers do.

> > >

> > > Margee: I've often heard the statement "Climbing

> > is like ballet, just

> > > on a vertical wall" from all sorts of climbers.

> > There are actually

> > > dance "troops" (can you tell I'm not a dancer?)

> > that perform

> > > suspended from ropes on walls. Sound interesting,

> > I've never

> > > actually seen it, but I've heard of them

> > performing for various

> > > events.

> > >

> > >

> > > ashtangayoga, lawrence romanosky

> > <lromanosky> wrote:

> > > > Well, just about all the dancers I know are into

> > > > Ashtanga as well. And, many of the instructors

> > have a

> > > > dance background, which I guess isn't too much

> > of a

> > > > surprise.

> > > > Cheers, Lawrence.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart@s...> wrote:

> > > > > That is interesting, rock climbing and

> > ashtanga. I

> > > > > have equated it with

> > > > > dance, a ballet all of its own!

> > > > > Margee

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lawrence romanosky

> > > > > [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > > > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:50

> > PM

> > > > > > ashtangayoga

> > > > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga and

> > the

> > > > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > > > climbing

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well sure enough, I went to the climbing gym

> > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > and there was a guy with a Krabi (one b?)

> > shirt

> > > > > on,

> > > > > > turns out a friend of his went and he is

> > trying to

> > > > > get

> > > > > > there too...what do you figure; 3 or 4

> > degrees of

> > > > > > separation between all of us?

> > > > > > Cheers, Lawrence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- jbrrr510 <jbrrr510@h...> wrote:

> > > > > > > ROTFLOL... literally I am rolling on the

> > floor

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > laughing out

> > > > > > > loud...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yeah... I'm a climber too... hence the

> > 510 in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > alias.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I too have noticed the abundance of people

> > who

> > > > > cross

> > > > > > > between the two

> > > > > > > pastimes (yoga and climbing).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm sure the links between the two have

> > been

> > > > > > > discussed here before,

> > > > > > > but please allow me to add my two cents

> > and say

> > > > > how

> > > > > > > similar in they

> > > > > > > are as well, They both link mind and body

> > > > > through

> > > > > > > movement. The

> > > > > > > mental focus and peace I find in yoga is

> > very

> > > > > > > similar to the mental

> > > > > > > focus and peace I find in climbing. The

> > fact

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > they are both

> > > > > > > highly complementary athletically is just

> > a

> > > > > bonus.

> > > > > > > My climbing/yoga

> > > > > > > balance is close to 60/40 although it does

> > > > > varies.

> > > > > > > Without question

> > > > > > > Yoga has helped my core strength for

> > climbing

> > > > > while

> > > > > > > at the same time

> > > > > > > providing a great cardio workout that

> > keeps the

> > > > > few

> > > > > > > extra pounds

> > > > > > > off. For those that don't climb, most

> > serious

> > > > > > > climbers worry more

> > > > > > > about their weight than Olympic gymnasts.

> > > > > Logically

> > > > > > > every ounce that

> > > > > > > hangs off one's fingers makes a

> > significant

> > > > > > > difference both in terms

> > > > > > > of relative power (strength to weight

> > ratio) as

> > > > > well

> > > > > > > as in terms of

> > > > > > > endurance (Weighing 180 lbs vs. 175 lbs

> > means

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > save 5 lbs of

> > > > > > > effort on every move, 100 moves = 500 lbs

> > on a

> > > > > > > single pitch, which on

> > > > > > > a long climb makes a huge difference).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think the climbing/yoga link applies to

> > both

> > > > > > > genders though. There

> > > > > > > are a number of women from my yoga classes

> > that

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > see occasionally at

> > > > > > > the climbing gym.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Maureen, Krabbi is very high on my list of

> > > > > places to

> > > > > > > visit. I've

> > > > > > > heard wonderful things about it from both

> > > > > climbers

> > > > > > > and non-climbers.

> > > > > > > I have a climber friend there right now in

> > fact

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > I'm NOT looking

> > > > > > > forward to hearing her stories when she

> > returns.

> >

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Hmmm. Point taken.

 

There is something about the incremental progress of

activites like yoga and climbing which are addictive.

Climbing a harder route or getting that Vinyasa smooth

and pretty, gives enormous satisfaction. The more you

do it, the better you want to become, so the more you

want to do it. Seeing a skilled ashtangi floating up

into a handstand from boat is inspiring and makes me

want to work harder to do it too. (that's a ways off

unfortunately, sob!)

 

I realize this ambition is probably at odds with the

fundamentals of Yoga like inner peace/acceptance etc.

Never the less, I can't change who I am and it

represents the framework for my life, and my pricipal

source of self-esteem and feelings of accomplishment.

 

I did pick up this book, printed in 1959, written by

an Englishmen who studied Indian culture and Yogis,

that went on to say that Yogis were never satisfied

with themselves. There was always a better posture

and a deeper meditation, a closer spiritual union, and

there was always ways to be a better person. They

apparantly never had sex, so perhaps I'm on the right

track afterall!

 

Seriously, the fear that in time I will look back at

this as folly, and will regret letting some great

girls slip by, is a real fear for me. I guess I hold

on to the ideal that if I work on being a better human

being, things will naturally work out...But, it is not

like I 100% conviction of that.

 

Namaste,

Lawrence.

 

 

--- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart wrote:

> I was once in that place where I was practicing 2-3

> hours daily, 5 times a

> week. I did that for almost two years. Next thing

> I knew my son left for

> Afghanistan and the war and my daughter moved out

> and returned to college.

> I walked into their empty rooms and wondored where

> the days went. Now, I

> look forward to my weekly calls, but it isn't the

> same and I can never get

> back all the time that I choose not to be with them.

> So, now I have an 11

> year-old at home still and playing cards or watching

> his football game is

> the priority. I won't make the same mistake.

>

> Enjoy your free time and your practice and climbing,

> but remember what

> really counts.

> Margee

>

> >

> > lawrence romanosky

> [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:31 PM

> > ashtanga yoga

> > ashtanga yoga RE: yoga and

> climbing/time for yoga

> >

> > I saw a dance performance on the ropes last year

> too.

> > It was about 5km into Grotto Canyon, near Canmore.

> It

> > was put on by a local company called Springboard.

>

> > The ropes were secured and the dancers were

> clipped in

> > about half way up, 15m. This was all done to the

> > music of a cellest (sp?) in the boulder strewn

> canyon

> > below. About 250 people showed up. It was a

> wonderful

> > day.

> >

> > About time, I guess there is always *some* time

> for

> > practice, and everybody must have a half hour or

> so

> > per day, and that's enough for a material benefit.

>

> >

> > I'm not a great one to talk as I just make the

> time,

> > usually 2 to 3 hours per day either climbing or

> yoga,

> > and that means quite a bit of sacrafice. My condo

> is

> > never really clean, my laundry piles up, I've put

> my

> > car hobbies on hold, I don't get out much to the

> > theatre anymore, don't read as much as I'd like,

> and

> > I'm not touching on relationships (done that

> > allready!) I just place at the very top of my

> > priority list, my health, and I suppose personal

> > ambition, and that's that. I'm concerned that

> this is

> > a bit selfish (so my ex-girlfried says!) so that's

> a

> > bit of a issue at the moment. Perhaps it will

> > balance out more with age and other commitments.

> >

> > Cheers, Lawrence.

> >

> > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart

> wrote:

> > > That is very true and I had the pleasure of

> seeing

> > > the rope dancers last

> > > year at Cirqu de Soleil and it was magnificant

> !!

> > > Unfortunately, I have a

> > > fear of heights and don't think that rock

> climbing

> > > would be my thing.

> > > Though I do see where the mind-body connection

> would

> > > come into play.

> > > Ashtanga practice takes such dedication and time

> and

> > > it is something that I

> > > wish that I had learned before I got married and

> had

> > > kids. I often wondor

> > > what direction my life would have taken if I was

> > > introduced to it much

> > > earlier. Now, with my obligations, it can be

> very

> > > difficult to put the time

> > > in that I really need to get further along in

> the

> > > practice. I haven't

> > > practiced in awhile, and again, I miss it

> terribly.

> > > Does anyone else have trouble balancing their

> "life"

> > > and practice time?

> > > Margee

> > >

> > > >

> > > > jbrrr510

> [sMTP:jbrrr510]

> > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:35 PM

> > > > ashtanga yoga

> > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga and the

> > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > climbing

> > > >

> > > > Yes dancers too! It's become a triangle I

> > > suppose, as I've also

> > > > known several excellent climbers whom are/were

> > > dancers.

> > > >

> > > > With it being election day today in the

> states, it

> > > makes me think

> > > > it'd be an interseting poll to see what the

> most

> > > common

> > > > crossover "sports" applied to yoga

> practitioners.

> > > I'm sure dance,

> > > > climbing and gymnastics would be high on the

> list.

> > > >

> > > > Lawarence: I too have often wondered what the

> > > degree of seperation

> > > > was in the climbing community, and yoga

> community.

> > > I've run into

> > > > casual aquantinces from home at every climbing

> > > area I've ever

> > > > traveled to. Unforutnatly in yoga, we rarely

> > > travel "to practice"

> > > > they way climbers do.

> > > >

> > > > Margee: I've often heard the statement

> "Climbing

> > > is like ballet, just

> > > > on a vertical wall" from all sorts of

> climbers.

> > > There are actually

> > > > dance "troops" (can you tell I'm not a

> dancer?)

> > > that perform

> > > > suspended from ropes on walls. Sound

> interesting,

> > > I've never

> > > > actually seen it, but I've heard of them

> > > performing for various

> > > > events.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ashtangayoga, lawrence romanosky

> > > <lromanosky> wrote:

> > > > > Well, just about all the dancers I know are

> into

> > > > > Ashtanga as well. And, many of the

> instructors

> > > have a

> > > > > dance background, which I guess isn't too

> much

> > > of a

> > > > > surprise.

> > > > > Cheers, Lawrence.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart@s...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > That is interesting, rock climbing and

> > > ashtanga. I

> > > > > > have equated it with

> > > > > > dance, a ballet all of its own!

> > > > > > Margee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lawrence romanosky

> > > > > > [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > > > > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002

> 1:50

> > > PM

> > > > > > > ashtangayoga

> > > > > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga

> and

> > > the

> > > > > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > > > > climbing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well sure enough, I went to the climbing

> gym

> > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > and there was a guy with a Krabi (one

> b?)

>

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SOOOOOOOOOOO true... yoga is ment to help you dive

deeper in your personal relationships than being so

commited you your asana practice that you forget about

things that are not on your mat. I think its helpful

to remind people that in ASHTANGA YOGA asana is one

AND only one branch.

 

I hope your son returns soon ;o)

Chris (iam 20 how old is your son?)

 

 

--- "earhart, Margee" <mgearhart wrote:

> I was once in that place where I was practicing 2-3

> hours daily, 5 times a

> week. I did that for almost two years. Next thing

> I knew my son left for

> Afghanistan and the war and my daughter moved out

> and returned to college.

> I walked into their empty rooms and wondored where

> the days went. Now, I

> look forward to my weekly calls, but it isn't the

> same and I can never get

> back all the time that I choose not to be with them.

> So, now I have an 11

> year-old at home still and playing cards or watching

> his football game is

> the priority. I won't make the same mistake.

>

> Enjoy your free time and your practice and climbing,

> but remember what

> really counts.

> Margee

>

> >

> > lawrence romanosky

> [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:31 PM

> > ashtanga yoga

> > ashtanga yoga RE: yoga and

> climbing/time for yoga

> >

> > I saw a dance performance on the ropes last year

> too.

> > It was about 5km into Grotto Canyon, near Canmore.

> It

> > was put on by a local company called Springboard.

>

> > The ropes were secured and the dancers were

> clipped in

> > about half way up, 15m. This was all done to the

> > music of a cellest (sp?) in the boulder strewn

> canyon

> > below. About 250 people showed up. It was a

> wonderful

> > day.

> >

> > About time, I guess there is always *some* time

> for

> > practice, and everybody must have a half hour or

> so

> > per day, and that's enough for a material benefit.

>

> >

> > I'm not a great one to talk as I just make the

> time,

> > usually 2 to 3 hours per day either climbing or

> yoga,

> > and that means quite a bit of sacrafice. My condo

> is

> > never really clean, my laundry piles up, I've put

> my

> > car hobbies on hold, I don't get out much to the

> > theatre anymore, don't read as much as I'd like,

> and

> > I'm not touching on relationships (done that

> > allready!) I just place at the very top of my

> > priority list, my health, and I suppose personal

> > ambition, and that's that. I'm concerned that

> this is

> > a bit selfish (so my ex-girlfried says!) so that's

> a

> > bit of a issue at the moment. Perhaps it will

> > balance out more with age and other commitments.

> >

> > Cheers, Lawrence.

> >

> > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart

> wrote:

> > > That is very true and I had the pleasure of

> seeing

> > > the rope dancers last

> > > year at Cirqu de Soleil and it was magnificant

> !!

> > > Unfortunately, I have a

> > > fear of heights and don't think that rock

> climbing

> > > would be my thing.

> > > Though I do see where the mind-body connection

> would

> > > come into play.

> > > Ashtanga practice takes such dedication and time

> and

> > > it is something that I

> > > wish that I had learned before I got married and

> had

> > > kids. I often wondor

> > > what direction my life would have taken if I was

> > > introduced to it much

> > > earlier. Now, with my obligations, it can be

> very

> > > difficult to put the time

> > > in that I really need to get further along in

> the

> > > practice. I haven't

> > > practiced in awhile, and again, I miss it

> terribly.

> > > Does anyone else have trouble balancing their

> "life"

> > > and practice time?

> > > Margee

> > >

> > > >

> > > > jbrrr510

> [sMTP:jbrrr510]

> > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:35 PM

> > > > ashtanga yoga

> > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga and the

> > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > climbing

> > > >

> > > > Yes dancers too! It's become a triangle I

> > > suppose, as I've also

> > > > known several excellent climbers whom are/were

> > > dancers.

> > > >

> > > > With it being election day today in the

> states, it

> > > makes me think

> > > > it'd be an interseting poll to see what the

> most

> > > common

> > > > crossover "sports" applied to yoga

> practitioners.

> > > I'm sure dance,

> > > > climbing and gymnastics would be high on the

> list.

> > > >

> > > > Lawarence: I too have often wondered what the

> > > degree of seperation

> > > > was in the climbing community, and yoga

> community.

> > > I've run into

> > > > casual aquantinces from home at every climbing

> > > area I've ever

> > > > traveled to. Unforutnatly in yoga, we rarely

> > > travel "to practice"

> > > > they way climbers do.

> > > >

> > > > Margee: I've often heard the statement

> "Climbing

> > > is like ballet, just

> > > > on a vertical wall" from all sorts of

> climbers.

> > > There are actually

> > > > dance "troops" (can you tell I'm not a

> dancer?)

> > > that perform

> > > > suspended from ropes on walls. Sound

> interesting,

> > > I've never

> > > > actually seen it, but I've heard of them

> > > performing for various

> > > > events.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ashtangayoga, lawrence romanosky

> > > <lromanosky> wrote:

> > > > > Well, just about all the dancers I know are

> into

> > > > > Ashtanga as well. And, many of the

> instructors

> > > have a

> > > > > dance background, which I guess isn't too

> much

> > > of a

> > > > > surprise.

> > > > > Cheers, Lawrence.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart@s...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > That is interesting, rock climbing and

> > > ashtanga. I

> > > > > > have equated it with

> > > > > > dance, a ballet all of its own!

> > > > > > Margee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lawrence romanosky

> > > > > > [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > > > > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002

> 1:50

> > > PM

> > > > > > > ashtangayoga

> > > > > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga

> and

> > > the

> > > > > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > > > > climbing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well sure enough, I went to the climbing

> gym

> > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > and there was a guy with a Krabi (one

> b?)

>

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Chris-

Words so true from one so young! good for you!

 

My son, Richard, just turned 21 in August. He has returned safe and sound

and is the better for the experience. He graduated from Navy Boot Camp on

September 9th and on Sept 11 we were attacked. It was a very difficult year

following and knowing that he was over in that area, but fortunately, he was

on a missle cruiser so I knew he was a bit safer then our boys on land. To

tell the truth, it was my Ashtanga Practice and great support of all those

in my class that kept my spirits up. Freeing myself of the anxieties that I

felt as a mother was very important so that I could be present for my

younger son and ready to deal with what ever was to come my way.

 

Practiced last night for the first time in a month and I am always amazed at

how much I love it and how great I feel because of it.

Namaste

Margee

>

> chris schmaltz [sMTP:yogaboi]

> Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:51 PM

> ashtanga yoga

> RE: ashtanga yoga RE: yoga and climbing/time for yoga

>

> SOOOOOOOOOOO true... yoga is ment to help you dive

> deeper in your personal relationships than being so

> commited you your asana practice that you forget about

> things that are not on your mat. I think its helpful

> to remind people that in ASHTANGA YOGA asana is one

> AND only one branch.

>

> I hope your son returns soon ;o)

> Chris (iam 20 how old is your son?)

>

>

> --- "earhart, Margee" <mgearhart wrote:

> > I was once in that place where I was practicing 2-3

> > hours daily, 5 times a

> > week. I did that for almost two years. Next thing

> > I knew my son left for

> > Afghanistan and the war and my daughter moved out

> > and returned to college.

> > I walked into their empty rooms and wondored where

> > the days went. Now, I

> > look forward to my weekly calls, but it isn't the

> > same and I can never get

> > back all the time that I choose not to be with them.

> > So, now I have an 11

> > year-old at home still and playing cards or watching

> > his football game is

> > the priority. I won't make the same mistake.

> >

> > Enjoy your free time and your practice and climbing,

> > but remember what

> > really counts.

> > Margee

> >

> > >

> > > lawrence romanosky

> > [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > > Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:31 PM

> > > ashtanga yoga

> > > ashtanga yoga RE: yoga and

> > climbing/time for yoga

> > >

> > > I saw a dance performance on the ropes last year

> > too.

> > > It was about 5km into Grotto Canyon, near Canmore.

> > It

> > > was put on by a local company called Springboard.

> >

> > > The ropes were secured and the dancers were

> > clipped in

> > > about half way up, 15m. This was all done to the

> > > music of a cellest (sp?) in the boulder strewn

> > canyon

> > > below. About 250 people showed up. It was a

> > wonderful

> > > day.

> > >

> > > About time, I guess there is always *some* time

> > for

> > > practice, and everybody must have a half hour or

> > so

> > > per day, and that's enough for a material benefit.

> >

> > >

> > > I'm not a great one to talk as I just make the

> > time,

> > > usually 2 to 3 hours per day either climbing or

> > yoga,

> > > and that means quite a bit of sacrafice. My condo

> > is

> > > never really clean, my laundry piles up, I've put

> > my

> > > car hobbies on hold, I don't get out much to the

> > > theatre anymore, don't read as much as I'd like,

> > and

> > > I'm not touching on relationships (done that

> > > allready!) I just place at the very top of my

> > > priority list, my health, and I suppose personal

> > > ambition, and that's that. I'm concerned that

> > this is

> > > a bit selfish (so my ex-girlfried says!) so that's

> > a

> > > bit of a issue at the moment. Perhaps it will

> > > balance out more with age and other commitments.

> > >

> > > Cheers, Lawrence.

> > >

> > > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart

> > wrote:

> > > > That is very true and I had the pleasure of

> > seeing

> > > > the rope dancers last

> > > > year at Cirqu de Soleil and it was magnificant

> > !!

> > > > Unfortunately, I have a

> > > > fear of heights and don't think that rock

> > climbing

> > > > would be my thing.

> > > > Though I do see where the mind-body connection

> > would

> > > > come into play.

> > > > Ashtanga practice takes such dedication and time

> > and

> > > > it is something that I

> > > > wish that I had learned before I got married and

> > had

> > > > kids. I often wondor

> > > > what direction my life would have taken if I was

> > > > introduced to it much

> > > > earlier. Now, with my obligations, it can be

> > very

> > > > difficult to put the time

> > > > in that I really need to get further along in

> > the

> > > > practice. I haven't

> > > > practiced in awhile, and again, I miss it

> > terribly.

> > > > Does anyone else have trouble balancing their

> > "life"

> > > > and practice time?

> > > > Margee

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > jbrrr510

> > [sMTP:jbrrr510]

> > > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:35 PM

> > > > > ashtanga yoga

> > > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga and the

> > > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > > climbing

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes dancers too! It's become a triangle I

> > > > suppose, as I've also

> > > > > known several excellent climbers whom are/were

> > > > dancers.

> > > > >

> > > > > With it being election day today in the

> > states, it

> > > > makes me think

> > > > > it'd be an interseting poll to see what the

> > most

> > > > common

> > > > > crossover "sports" applied to yoga

> > practitioners.

> > > > I'm sure dance,

> > > > > climbing and gymnastics would be high on the

> > list.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lawarence: I too have often wondered what the

> > > > degree of seperation

> > > > > was in the climbing community, and yoga

> > community.

> > > > I've run into

> > > > > casual aquantinces from home at every climbing

> > > > area I've ever

> > > > > traveled to. Unforutnatly in yoga, we rarely

> > > > travel "to practice"

> > > > > they way climbers do.

> > > > >

> > > > > Margee: I've often heard the statement

> > "Climbing

> > > > is like ballet, just

> > > > > on a vertical wall" from all sorts of

> > climbers.

> > > > There are actually

> > > > > dance "troops" (can you tell I'm not a

> > dancer?)

> > > > that perform

> > > > > suspended from ropes on walls. Sound

> > interesting,

> > > > I've never

> > > > > actually seen it, but I've heard of them

> > > > performing for various

> > > > > events.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ashtangayoga, lawrence romanosky

> > > > <lromanosky> wrote:

> > > > > > Well, just about all the dancers I know are

> > into

> > > > > > Ashtanga as well. And, many of the

> > instructors

> > > > have a

> > > > > > dance background, which I guess isn't too

> > much

> > > > of a

> > > > > > surprise.

> > > > > > Cheers, Lawrence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > That is interesting, rock climbing and

> > > > ashtanga. I

> > > > > > > have equated it with

> > > > > > > dance, a ballet all of its own!

> > > > > > > Margee

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lawrence romanosky

> > > > > > > [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > > > > > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002

> > 1:50

> > > > PM

> > > > > > > > ashtangayoga

> > > > > > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > > > > > climbing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Well sure enough, I went to the climbing

> > gym

> > > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > > and there was a guy with a Krabi (one

> > b?)

> >

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Lawrence-

Being an Aries, I am always trying to achieve in what ever I "decide" I want

to do. Practicing Ashtanga and learning on the mat that I couldn't, and

didn't have to do it "perfect" was the greatest gift that my teacher ever

taught me. Not to say that I still don't try hard to practice well. I have

just learned not to expect so much from myself and to take each practice as

it is and know that it is ok. Tough lesson....

I also, know, speaking from experience, that relationships do take time and

effort, just as our practice does and I think our greatest challenge is to

learn balance. Don't give up one for the other, it isn't worth it.

Sharing our lives and helping others is the greatest gift we can ever have.

I do know that sharing our love for Ashtanga/climbing with another who has

the same interests would be great. Then you could do it together. I love

yoga and my husband loves motorbikes. I would say that was a bit of a

difference. I will come and watch him and Johnny ride, but somehow I don't

think he will be on a yoga mat anytime soon!

 

Margee

>

> lawrence romanosky [sMTP:lromanosky]

> Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:06 PM

> ashtanga yoga

> RE: ashtanga yoga RE: yoga and climbing/time for yoga

>

> Hmmm. Point taken.

>

> There is something about the incremental progress of

> activites like yoga and climbing which are addictive.

> Climbing a harder route or getting that Vinyasa smooth

> and pretty, gives enormous satisfaction. The more you

> do it, the better you want to become, so the more you

> want to do it. Seeing a skilled ashtangi floating up

> into a handstand from boat is inspiring and makes me

> want to work harder to do it too. (that's a ways off

> unfortunately, sob!)

>

> I realize this ambition is probably at odds with the

> fundamentals of Yoga like inner peace/acceptance etc.

> Never the less, I can't change who I am and it

> represents the framework for my life, and my pricipal

> source of self-esteem and feelings of accomplishment.

>

> I did pick up this book, printed in 1959, written by

> an Englishmen who studied Indian culture and Yogis,

> that went on to say that Yogis were never satisfied

> with themselves. There was always a better posture

> and a deeper meditation, a closer spiritual union, and

> there was always ways to be a better person. They

> apparantly never had sex, so perhaps I'm on the right

> track afterall!

>

> Seriously, the fear that in time I will look back at

> this as folly, and will regret letting some great

> girls slip by, is a real fear for me. I guess I hold

> on to the ideal that if I work on being a better human

> being, things will naturally work out...But, it is not

> like I 100% conviction of that.

>

> Namaste,

> Lawrence.

>

>

> --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart wrote:

> > I was once in that place where I was practicing 2-3

> > hours daily, 5 times a

> > week. I did that for almost two years. Next thing

> > I knew my son left for

> > Afghanistan and the war and my daughter moved out

> > and returned to college.

> > I walked into their empty rooms and wondored where

> > the days went. Now, I

> > look forward to my weekly calls, but it isn't the

> > same and I can never get

> > back all the time that I choose not to be with them.

> > So, now I have an 11

> > year-old at home still and playing cards or watching

> > his football game is

> > the priority. I won't make the same mistake.

> >

> > Enjoy your free time and your practice and climbing,

> > but remember what

> > really counts.

> > Margee

> >

> > >

> > > lawrence romanosky

> > [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > > Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:31 PM

> > > ashtanga yoga

> > > ashtanga yoga RE: yoga and

> > climbing/time for yoga

> > >

> > > I saw a dance performance on the ropes last year

> > too.

> > > It was about 5km into Grotto Canyon, near Canmore.

> > It

> > > was put on by a local company called Springboard.

> >

> > > The ropes were secured and the dancers were

> > clipped in

> > > about half way up, 15m. This was all done to the

> > > music of a cellest (sp?) in the boulder strewn

> > canyon

> > > below. About 250 people showed up. It was a

> > wonderful

> > > day.

> > >

> > > About time, I guess there is always *some* time

> > for

> > > practice, and everybody must have a half hour or

> > so

> > > per day, and that's enough for a material benefit.

> >

> > >

> > > I'm not a great one to talk as I just make the

> > time,

> > > usually 2 to 3 hours per day either climbing or

> > yoga,

> > > and that means quite a bit of sacrafice. My condo

> > is

> > > never really clean, my laundry piles up, I've put

> > my

> > > car hobbies on hold, I don't get out much to the

> > > theatre anymore, don't read as much as I'd like,

> > and

> > > I'm not touching on relationships (done that

> > > allready!) I just place at the very top of my

> > > priority list, my health, and I suppose personal

> > > ambition, and that's that. I'm concerned that

> > this is

> > > a bit selfish (so my ex-girlfried says!) so that's

> > a

> > > bit of a issue at the moment. Perhaps it will

> > > balance out more with age and other commitments.

> > >

> > > Cheers, Lawrence.

> > >

> > > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart

> > wrote:

> > > > That is very true and I had the pleasure of

> > seeing

> > > > the rope dancers last

> > > > year at Cirqu de Soleil and it was magnificant

> > !!

> > > > Unfortunately, I have a

> > > > fear of heights and don't think that rock

> > climbing

> > > > would be my thing.

> > > > Though I do see where the mind-body connection

> > would

> > > > come into play.

> > > > Ashtanga practice takes such dedication and time

> > and

> > > > it is something that I

> > > > wish that I had learned before I got married and

> > had

> > > > kids. I often wondor

> > > > what direction my life would have taken if I was

> > > > introduced to it much

> > > > earlier. Now, with my obligations, it can be

> > very

> > > > difficult to put the time

> > > > in that I really need to get further along in

> > the

> > > > practice. I haven't

> > > > practiced in awhile, and again, I miss it

> > terribly.

> > > > Does anyone else have trouble balancing their

> > "life"

> > > > and practice time?

> > > > Margee

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > jbrrr510

> > [sMTP:jbrrr510]

> > > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:35 PM

> > > > > ashtanga yoga

> > > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga and the

> > > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > > climbing

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes dancers too! It's become a triangle I

> > > > suppose, as I've also

> > > > > known several excellent climbers whom are/were

> > > > dancers.

> > > > >

> > > > > With it being election day today in the

> > states, it

> > > > makes me think

> > > > > it'd be an interseting poll to see what the

> > most

> > > > common

> > > > > crossover "sports" applied to yoga

> > practitioners.

> > > > I'm sure dance,

> > > > > climbing and gymnastics would be high on the

> > list.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lawarence: I too have often wondered what the

> > > > degree of seperation

> > > > > was in the climbing community, and yoga

> > community.

> > > > I've run into

> > > > > casual aquantinces from home at every climbing

> > > > area I've ever

> > > > > traveled to. Unforutnatly in yoga, we rarely

> > > > travel "to practice"

> > > > > they way climbers do.

> > > > >

> > > > > Margee: I've often heard the statement

> > "Climbing

> > > > is like ballet, just

> > > > > on a vertical wall" from all sorts of

> > climbers.

> > > > There are actually

> > > > > dance "troops" (can you tell I'm not a

> > dancer?)

> > > > that perform

> > > > > suspended from ropes on walls. Sound

> > interesting,

> > > > I've never

> > > > > actually seen it, but I've heard of them

> > > > performing for various

> > > > > events.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ashtangayoga, lawrence romanosky

> > > > <lromanosky> wrote:

> > > > > > Well, just about all the dancers I know are

> > into

> > > > > > Ashtanga as well. And, many of the

> > instructors

> > > > have a

> > > > > > dance background, which I guess isn't too

> > much

> > > > of a

> > > > > > surprise.

> > > > > > Cheers, Lawrence.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- "Gearhart, Margee" <mgearhart@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > That is interesting, rock climbing and

> > > > ashtanga. I

> > > > > > > have equated it with

> > > > > > > dance, a ballet all of its own!

> > > > > > > Margee

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lawrence romanosky

> > > > > > > [sMTP:lromanosky]

> > > > > > > > Tuesday, November 05, 2002

> > 1:50

> > > > PM

> > > > > > > > ashtangayoga

> > > > > > > > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > > > sexes...../yoga and

> > > > > > > > climbing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Well sure enough, I went to the climbing

> > gym

> > > > > > > yesterday

> > > > > > > > and there was a guy with a Krabi (one

> > b?)

> >

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