Guest guest Posted December 23, 2002 Report Share Posted December 23, 2002 "One of my employers won't hire anyone not certified by Yoga Alliance." Well first of all Yoga Alliance does NOT certify yoga teachers. By it's own definitions it is a registry only so that is not relevant. "I follow the primary series sequence, illiminating those that are beyond my abilities like lotus." "If you can't do everything in the primary series, you aren't allowed to move up." "Yet with all my experience, based on PJ's requirements, I am not qualified to teach Ashtanga Yoga." Right, so you think that you are qualified to teach things you cannot do yourself, interesting. "PJ is expensive. After this tour in America he is raising his prices to $850 per month. Maybe not a lot to you or I who live in America, but when I was in India, this is out of reach for all but the richest of these people." He is also worth what he charges. By the way he has separate rates for the Indian people you are so concerned about. If you don't want to study with him don't, but the Yoga Alliance can NEVER qualify you to teach Ashtanga Yoga. Why don't you teach what you can do and are able to practice yourself, just don't call it Ashtanga. As long as you do that no one has a problem with it right? ashtanga yoga, debra bobier <debbobier> wrote: > I am sure we would all rather be doing or teaching > yoga than thinking about these things, but the fact is > that like massage, yoga will eventually be regulated. > > Only those with certifications from supposedly > qualified organizations will be able to teach, > irregardless of what we, or PJ thinks. There's > discussion that it may also be covered by insurance at > some point and we know what that means. > > In many instances this is a lot of bunk. As with every > profession, there are people teaching yoga that are > qualified but are terrible teachers. There are people > with lesser qualifications that are excellent. Just > because you can do a headstand doesn't mean you are > qualified to teach. And if your students have neck > injuries this shouldn't be taught period. > > I have been trained in both Iyengar and Ashtanga yoga > styles. I have over 500 hours of training both in the > physical and metaphysical aspects of yoga. As well as > Anatomy and Physiology. I have years of teaching > experience. And my learning is ongoing. I am > registered with the necessary Yoga organization, not > because they make me a better teacher, but because I > know I need to be in order to teach yoga in this ever > changing, regulated world. > > One of my employers won't hire anyone not certified by > Yoga Alliance. They even told me they don't know if > they are the best, but they need some type of > standards to go by. Since they are a health > organization and could be sued, they have to cover > their you know whats. > > Ashtanga is my personal favorite yoga style. I simply > love moving quietly and peacefully from one asana to > another without stopping. I follow the primary series > sequence, illiminating those that are beyond my > abilities like lotus. I have knee injuries that will > prevent me from ever being able to do this. But I'll > teach it. Irregardless of whether I can do everything, > and do it perfectly, my yoga practice brings me such > joy that I want to share the benefits with everyone. > > Yet with all my experience, based on PJ's > requirements, I am not qualified to teach Ashtanga > Yoga even though my training has been excellent and > extensive, from people blessed by PJ, or Yogi's that > have trained with T. Krishnamacharyam the grandfather > of modern yoga, the person PJ and Iyengar and > Desikachar learned from. > > Whether I like or agree with this makes no difference. > It is what it is. I teach Power or Dynamic Yoga and > use the Ashtanga sequence as a guideline. I teach > integrative yoga. I teach gentle, restorative yoga. As > well as relaxation and meditation. It doesn't matter > to me what name is attached to it by someone else. > > My classes are modified based on the skills, abilities > and fitness levels of my students. There has to be a > sensitivity to their needs, safety and a fun and > challenging learning environment. I think the most > important thing to give someone is a wonderful yoga > experience that includes the many aspects of yoga from > Pranayama to asana to relaxation and nurturing to yoga > philosophies. A teacher is simply a guide enabling > people to discover themselves through the gift of > yoga. > > Ianother without stopping. I follow the primary series > sequence, illiminating those that are beyond my > abilities like lotus. > If you can't do everything in the primary series, you > aren't allowed to move up. But he isn't alone. All the > teachers I worked with emphasized the physical aspect > of the practice with the exception of one. Once I > understood the philosophy behind this, it made sense, > but I don't agree with the all or nothing angle. > > PJ is expensive. After this tour in America he is > raising his prices to $850 per month. Maybe not a lot > to you or I who live in America, but when I was in > India, this is out of reach for all but the richest of > these people. The most other highly qualified teachers > charge is $100.00 a month. Which in itself raises > questions like "Should yoga only be taught by those > with money and no physical limitations at all? > > For what it's worth this is my two and a half cents. > Thanks to for the opportunity to share our thoughts. > And I agree with this person, no need to jump down my > throat if you don't agree. We're all entitled to our > opinions. However, in the true spirit of yoga, can't > we attempt to do it with love and compassion? > > Have a blissful Holiday. > > Namaste' > > Deb Bobier > www.yogabound.com > > --- mangaladasa <no_reply> wrote: > > Hi RC, > > Regarding the Yoga Alliance, They do not list any > > sort of > > certification other then those organizations who > > have applied to have > > their training or school listed by that registry. In > > other words they > > do not accept even the certificate which Sri K. > > Pattabhi Jois issues > > because he has not registered with them! This is > > true of the B.K.S. > > Iyengar certication as well. They were acepting what > > they > > call "grandfathering in" for a while where people > > could write up > > their own hours and have sudents or friends sign it, > > but I think the > > deadline is up for that. All in all there is > > something wrong with > > this picture right? I'm glad you asked this question > > because many > > people are in the dark about how the whole thing > > works. So my opinion > > is don't bother with them. Pursue your practice and > > get a true > > certification that means something from a real > > teacher. > > > > > > ashtanga yoga, Rock Chick > > <rokchik666> > > wrote: > > > Hello Everyone, > > > First thanks to everyone for their opinions and > > > thoughts on migranes, i'm feeling much better! > > > > > > > > > I would like to get everyone's thoughts on the > > Yoga > > > Alliance. I personally have been dedicated to the > > > ashtanga practice for 3 years now, i know it is > > not a > > > lifetime, but i am extremely dedicated. I > > completed > > > the teacher training w/ david swenson and did a > > > workshop w/ Manju Jois. I am currently teaching a > > few > > > classes, while maintaining my own practice. > > Frankly, > > > i do not have 1500$ to spend to take a 200 hour > > > course. > > > i do intend however to keep attending workshops, > > etc > > > to excel my practice. > > > > > > I am wondering what everybody's thoughts are on > > this. > > > Now, as a disclaimer, no need to jump down my > > throat > > > (or anyone elses) and/or criticize, as sometimes > > > happens w/ these controversial posts. Just asking > > for > > > everyone's opinions and thoughts. > > > > > > Thanks so much, and hope all is well with > > everyone! > > > xo > > > RC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > now. > > > http://mailplus. > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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