Guest guest Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 Although you may be excited by Bryan's videos and White Lotus yoga, neither comes close to being Ashtanga Yoga. It is not about being a "purist" or not. Although you may find some similarities, Ashtanga is a completely different practice that effects the body and mind in a completely different way. The best way to begin to understand this is to find an authentic Ashtanga instructor and do the practice yourself. Also do some research and check out AYRI.org I am only pointing out that this is a very different practice. There are message boards for White Lotus as well as for "Power Yoga" which is what Bryan Kest teaches. Neither come close to the practice that this board references. FBL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 Hi, I know that neither of those practices are pure "ashtanga" but that's irrelevant to me. I wasn't trying to say that they were pure ashtanga but the fact is, they are in both very much influenced by ashtanga. Bryan Kest started at 14 years old doing Ashtanga (at the insistence of his father who basically told him to do yoga or move out.... Bryan talks about this in "Yogi Bare"). Ganja White did study with P. Jois while he was in the states (as well as Iyengar in India.... yes, I know Iyengar isn't ashtanga either:) ). Anyway, they are however valid practices that can have great benefits to people. To be quite honest with you, for me personally the White Lotus approach has been the practice that appeals to me personally and I really like what Bryan Kest and Baron Baptiste as well have brought to people as well. There are many people like me who are devoted to a daily practice but not strictly to ashtanga. I guess if there are message boards for those other practices then I will most definitely move over to there. I happen to be very eclectic in terms of my yoga practice (which is very much along the lines of thinking of "White Lotus"). Still, while I would find it interesting to practice with an Ashtanga teacher (and there are several where I live) I have no desire to devote myself exclusively to Ashtanga. I came to this group to learn more about Ashtanga (I have been working with David Swenson's tapes and have his "manual" for about 2 years along with my other tapes and I have Richard Freemans's "breathing and relaxation" but I have gotten more personal benefit from practicing the "White Lotus" way and others depending on how I intuitively feel. The teacher I study with each week is a very eclectic teacher, definitely not ashtanga and I have derived great benefits from her approach as well. I have no intention of giving up studying with her either:) I will say that while it's possible that ashtanga may effect the body and mind in a completely different way I don't think you can claim that they effect them in a "Better" way than other practices. In fact, from the degree of "flame throwing" and arrogance that I've seen on this list it certainly doesn't appear that their practice has necessarily helped them beyond the physical (I am not accusing you in particular of this sort of thing because you were not rude at all in your response, this is just an observation). But as Bryan Kest said in one of his interview (I'm paraphrasing here) " I know people who can do the advanced series who are still manic depressive". Take care, Scott ashtanga yoga, funkybadlady <no_reply> wrote: > Although you may be excited by Bryan's videos and White Lotus > yoga, neither comes close to being Ashtanga Yoga. It is not > about being a "purist" or not. Although you may find some > similarities, Ashtanga is a completely different practice that > effects the body and mind in a completely different way. The > best way to begin to understand this is to find an authentic > Ashtanga instructor and do the practice yourself. Also do some > research and check out AYRI.org > > I am only pointing out that this is a very different practice. There > are message boards for White Lotus as well as for "Power > Yoga" which is what Bryan Kest teaches. Neither come close to > the practice that this board references. > > FBL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 There were no flames here. It is a common misconception that the styles are "interchangeable" and that only "Ashtanga purists" take issue with interchaging flow style practices and ashtanga. You are not telling me anything I don't already know. I know all three people personally - Tracey, Ganga and Bryan. The practices you mention are as far as you can get from ashtanga. I am only pointing this out. If you like tracey and Ganga's thing, cool. If you are into Bryan Kest, great. But it is not what we practice. Ashtanga has a very specific sequence and a very distinct way of learning poses. The teaching style is also very distinct and a very important component of Ashtanga. I don't understand what your argument is... What you and other are talking about is just not ashtanga. All the theorizing and fact throwing is not going to change that. FBL ashtanga yoga, "musefish9396 < musefish9396>" <musefish9396> wrote: > Hi, > > I know that neither of those practices are pure "ashtanga" but > that's irrelevant to me. I wasn't trying to say that they were pure > ashtanga but the fact is, they are in both very much influenced by > ashtanga. Bryan Kest started at 14 years old doing Ashtanga (at the > insistence of his father who basically told him to do yoga or move > out.... Bryan talks about this in "Yogi Bare"). Ganja White did > study with P. Jois while he was in the states (as well as Iyengar in > India.... yes, I know Iyengar isn't ashtanga either:) ). > > Anyway, they are however valid practices that can have great > benefits to people. > > To be quite honest with you, for me personally the White Lotus > approach has been the practice that appeals to me personally and I > really like what Bryan Kest and Baron Baptiste as well have brought > to people as well. There are many people like me who are devoted to > a daily practice but not strictly to ashtanga. > > I guess if there are message boards for those other practices then > I will most definitely move over to there. I happen to be very > eclectic in terms of my yoga practice (which is very much along the > lines of thinking of "White Lotus"). > > Still, while I would find it interesting to practice with an > Ashtanga teacher (and there are several where I live) I have no > desire to devote myself exclusively to Ashtanga. I came to this > group to learn more about Ashtanga (I have been working with David > Swenson's tapes and have his "manual" for about 2 years along with > my other tapes and I have Richard Freemans's "breathing and > relaxation" but I have gotten more personal benefit from practicing > the "White Lotus" way and others depending on how I intuitively feel. > > The teacher I study with each week is a very eclectic teacher, > definitely not ashtanga and I have derived great benefits from her > approach as well. I have no intention of giving up studying with her > either:) > > I will say that while it's possible that ashtanga may effect the > body and mind in a completely different way I don't think you can > claim that they effect them in a "Better" way than other practices. > > In fact, from the degree of "flame throwing" and arrogance that > I've seen on this list it certainly doesn't appear that their > practice has necessarily helped them beyond the physical (I am not > accusing you in particular of this sort of thing because you were > not rude at all in your response, this is just an observation). > > But as Bryan Kest said in one of his interview (I'm paraphrasing > here) " I know people who can do the advanced series who are still > manic depressive". > > Take care, > > Scott > > > > > > ashtanga yoga, funkybadlady < no_reply> > wrote: > > Although you may be excited by Bryan's videos and White Lotus > > yoga, neither comes close to being Ashtanga Yoga. It is not > > about being a "purist" or not. Although you may find some > > similarities, Ashtanga is a completely different practice that > > effects the body and mind in a completely different way. The > > best way to begin to understand this is to find an authentic > > Ashtanga instructor and do the practice yourself. Also do some > > research and check out AYRI.org > > > > I am only pointing out that this is a very different practice. > There > > are message boards for White Lotus as well as for "Power > > Yoga" which is what Bryan Kest teaches. Neither come close to > > the practice that this board references. > > > > FBL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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