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Your right fbl, Ashtanga is Ashtanga and can be defined no other way.

It amazes me how many centers I look up that state they teach "Ashtanga,"

(looking for a new teacher) and when I call to find out what it incorporates,

they end of telling me that it is an "ashtanga type," a bit of this and a bit of

that. I say thank you, but no thank you. So, still looking....

Margee

>

> funkybadlady [sMTP:no_reply]

> Monday, January 27, 2003 1:21 PM

> ashtanga yoga

> ashtanga yoga Re: not ashtanga

>

> There were no flames here. It is a common misconception that

> the styles are "interchangeable" and that only "Ashtanga purists"

> take issue with interchaging flow style practices and ashtanga.

> You are not telling me anything I don't already know. I know all

> three people personally - Tracey, Ganga and Bryan. The

> practices you mention are as far as you can get from ashtanga. I

> am only pointing this out. If you like tracey and Ganga's thing,

> cool. If you are into Bryan Kest, great. But it is not what we

> practice. Ashtanga has a very specific sequence and a very

> distinct way of learning poses. The teaching style is also very

> distinct and a very important component of Ashtanga. I don't

> understand what your argument is... What you and other are

> talking about is just not ashtanga. All the theorizing and fact

> throwing is not going to change that.

>

> FBL

>

>

> ashtanga yoga, "musefish9396 <

> musefish9396>" <musefish9396> wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > I know that neither of those practices are pure "ashtanga" but

> > that's irrelevant to me. I wasn't trying to say that they were pure

> > ashtanga but the fact is, they are in both very much influenced

> by

> > ashtanga. Bryan Kest started at 14 years old doing Ashtanga

> (at the

> > insistence of his father who basically told him to do yoga or

> move

> > out.... Bryan talks about this in "Yogi Bare"). Ganja White did

> > study with P. Jois while he was in the states (as well as

> Iyengar in

> > India.... yes, I know Iyengar isn't ashtanga either:) ).

> >

> > Anyway, they are however valid practices that can have great

> > benefits to people.

> >

> > To be quite honest with you, for me personally the White Lotus

> > approach has been the practice that appeals to me personally

> and I

> > really like what Bryan Kest and Baron Baptiste as well have

> brought

> > to people as well. There are many people like me who are

> devoted to

> > a daily practice but not strictly to ashtanga.

> >

> > I guess if there are message boards for those other practices

> then

> > I will most definitely move over to there. I happen to be very

> > eclectic in terms of my yoga practice (which is very much along

> the

> > lines of thinking of "White Lotus").

> >

> > Still, while I would find it interesting to practice with an

> > Ashtanga teacher (and there are several where I live) I have no

> > desire to devote myself exclusively to Ashtanga. I came to this

> > group to learn more about Ashtanga (I have been working with

> David

> > Swenson's tapes and have his "manual" for about 2 years

> along with

> > my other tapes and I have Richard Freemans's "breathing and

> > relaxation" but I have gotten more personal benefit from

> practicing

> > the "White Lotus" way and others depending on how I intuitively

> feel.

> >

> > The teacher I study with each week is a very eclectic teacher,

> > definitely not ashtanga and I have derived great benefits from

> her

> > approach as well. I have no intention of giving up studying with

> her

> > either:)

> >

> > I will say that while it's possible that ashtanga may effect the

> > body and mind in a completely different way I don't think you

> can

> > claim that they effect them in a "Better" way than other >

> practices.

> >

> > In fact, from the degree of "flame throwing" and arrogance that

> > I've seen on this list it certainly doesn't appear that their

> > practice has necessarily helped them beyond the physical (I

> am not

> > accusing you in particular of this sort of thing because you

> were

> > not rude at all in your response, this is just an observation).

> >

> > But as Bryan Kest said in one of his interview (I'm

> paraphrasing

> > here) " I know people who can do the advanced series who are

> still

> > manic depressive".

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Scott

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ashtanga yoga, funkybadlady <

> no_reply>

> > wrote:

> > > Although you may be excited by Bryan's videos and White

> Lotus

> > > yoga, neither comes close to being Ashtanga Yoga. It is not

> > > about being a "purist" or not. Although you may find some

> > > similarities, Ashtanga is a completely different practice that

> > > effects the body and mind in a completely different way. The

> > > best way to begin to understand this is to find an authentic

> > > Ashtanga instructor and do the practice yourself. Also do

> some

> > > research and check out AYRI.org

> > >

> > > I am only pointing out that this is a very different practice.

> > There

> > > are message boards for White Lotus as well as for "Power

> > > Yoga" which is what Bryan Kest teaches. Neither come

> close to

> > > the practice that this board references.

> > >

> > > FBL

>

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