Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 On the other astanga board I'm on someone who'd been to Mysore fairly recently quoted SKPJ as saying "full vinyasa bad for heart" or something to that effect and that he'd stopped teaching it. I doubt it's bad for the heart but either way doing full or half is up to the practitioner. I've practiced both and don't see how it could really improve or degrade the ultimate benefits of the practice. "ImpliedPresence" <hmmmmmmm ashtanga yoga ashtanga yoga ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:09:43 -0400 It has been interesting to read all of the various replies to the question regarding doing a full or half vinyasa between asanas in first (and second?) series. It makes sense to me that, although John Scott's book outlines doing the full vinyasa between asanas, when doing a full practice, people (including those in Mysore) usually do a half vinyasa. For my part, I haven't been to Mysore, so I can't say what happens there. Also, I realize that some people think any Ashtanga learned outside of Mysore isn't "as authentic" as that which is taught there... that's fine... what I can offer is what I've learned from teachers who were once taught in Mysore themselves... whether this is authentic teaching or not, I will and cannot say. However, their instruction and support have been helpful to me, so I'll share part of it here. Both David Swenson and David Williams teach a half vinyasa between asanas. >From what I can remember, Manju Jois does not teach full vinyasa either. Can any one else confirm this? When it comes to my own practice, I cannot imagine doing full vinyasa, as doing first series with half vinyasas takes me more than an hour and a half already. About once a week, I do first and second series together, and the time is over 2 hours. Making my practices longer (by doing full vinyasas) is just not possible. That's my more-than-two-cents, take it for what it's worth (or not) to you, Heather Marie _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 You know, Christopher, full vinyasa done everyday for an entire lifetime is very likely bad for the heart for most people which is why Guruji says this. It's just way too much. And, how you practice is not up to the practicioner, it is up to the teacher which is why you take advise and information about Ashtanga Yoga directly from Pattabhi Jois and you don't make up your own mind about whether half or full vinyasa is good or bad for you. Remember you are developing a practice that you will do for many many years of you are that lucky. For someone who has little experience it seems arrogant to give out the kind of advise you do. Guruji is a very wise man and he has many years of experience both practicing Ashtanga as well as observing students. I would say that clearly, you are wasting the money you pay him, especially if you are going to make up your own kind of yoga practice. FBL ashtanga yoga, "Christopher Seal" < christopher_seal@h...> wrote: > On the other astanga board I'm on someone who'd been to Mysore fairly > recently quoted SKPJ as saying "full vinyasa bad for heart" or something to > that effect and that he'd stopped teaching it. I doubt it's bad for the > heart but either way doing full or half is up to the practitioner. I've > practiced both and don't see how it could really improve or degrade the > ultimate benefits of the practice. > > > "ImpliedPresence" <hmmmmmmm@o...> > ashtanga yoga > ashtanga yoga > ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa > Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:09:43 -0400 > > It has been interesting to read all of the various replies to the question > regarding doing a full or half vinyasa between asanas in first (and second?) > series. > > It makes sense to me that, although John Scott's book outlines doing the > full vinyasa between asanas, when doing a full practice, people (including > those in Mysore) usually do a half vinyasa. > > For my part, I haven't been to Mysore, so I can't say what happens there. > Also, I realize that some people think any Ashtanga learned outside of > Mysore isn't "as authentic" as that which is taught there... that's fine... > what I can offer is what I've learned from teachers who were once taught in > Mysore themselves... whether this is authentic teaching or not, I will and > cannot say. However, their instruction and support have been helpful to me, > so I'll share part of it here. > > Both David Swenson and David Williams teach a half vinyasa between asanas. > From what I can remember, Manju Jois does not teach full vinyasa either. > Can any one else confirm this? > > When it comes to my own practice, I cannot imagine doing full vinyasa, as > doing first series with half vinyasas takes me more than an hour and a half > already. About once a week, I do first and second series together, and the > time is over 2 hours. Making my practices longer (by doing full vinyasas) > is just not possible. > > That's my more-than-two-cents, take it for what it's worth (or not) to you, > Heather Marie > > > > > _______________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 If simply choosing between half or full vinyasa constitutes "making up my own practice" then yes, I am recklessly creative and clearly a rogue ashtangi. It just seems to me that very senior western students, john scott and leino meile for example, advocate and or teach full vinyasa. These are individuals who know a lot more than you (I presume, though I don't know who you are) or I , and are fairly close to guruji, and the fact that they still do this leads me to believe there is some breathing room for personal choice in whether or not you do full or half. If it were truly that bad for the heart and guruji was adamantly against it why does he allow some of his most famous students to teach it and give his blessings to books that include it. Books and classes that will presumably form the basis for some beginners lifelong practice. I'm just skeptical about it that's all. If you have the inside scoop on why this is I'd be more than happy to mend my arrogant ways. funkybadlady ashtanga yoga ashtanga yoga Re: ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa Thu, 17 Apr 2003 02:35:02 -0000 You know, Christopher, full vinyasa done everyday for an entire lifetime is very likely bad for the heart for most people which is why Guruji says this. It's just way too much. And, how you practice is not up to the practicioner, it is up to the teacher which is why you take advise and information about Ashtanga Yoga directly from Pattabhi Jois and you don't make up your own mind about whether half or full vinyasa is good or bad for you. Remember you are developing a practice that you will do for many many years of you are that lucky. For someone who has little experience it seems arrogant to give out the kind of advise you do. Guruji is a very wise man and he has many years of experience both practicing Ashtanga as well as observing students. I would say that clearly, you are wasting the money you pay him, especially if you are going to make up your own kind of yoga practice. FBL ashtanga yoga, "Christopher Seal" < christopher_seal@h...> wrote: >On the other astanga board I'm on someone who'd been to Mysore fairly >recently quoted SKPJ as saying "full vinyasa bad for heart" or something to >that effect and that he'd stopped teaching it. I doubt it's bad for the >heart but either way doing full or half is up to the practitioner. I've >practiced both and don't see how it could really improve or degrade the >ultimate benefits of the practice. > > >"ImpliedPresence" ashtanga yoga Subject: >ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa Tue, 15 Apr 2003 >13:09:43 -0400 > >It has been interesting to read all of the various replies to the question >regarding doing a full or half vinyasa between asanas in first (and second?) >series. > >It makes sense to me that, although John Scott's book outlines doing the >full vinyasa between asanas, when doing a full practice, people (including >those in Mysore) usually do a half vinyasa. > >For my part, I haven't been to Mysore, so I can't say what happens there. >Also, I realize that some people think any Ashtanga learned outside of >Mysore isn't "as authentic" as that which is taught there... that's fine... >what I can offer is what I've learned from teachers who were once taught in >Mysore themselves... whether this is authentic teaching or not, I will and >cannot say. However, their instruction and support have been helpful to me, >so I'll share part of it here. > >Both David Swenson and David Williams teach a half vinyasa between asanas. >From what I can remember, Manju Jois does not teach full vinyasa either. >Can any one else confirm this? > >When it comes to my own practice, I cannot imagine doing full vinyasa, as >doing first series with half vinyasas takes me more than an hour and a half >already. About once a week, I do first and second series together, and the >time is over 2 hours. Making my practices longer (by doing full vinyasas) >is just not possible. > >That's my more-than-two-cents, take it for what it's worth (or not) to you, >Heather Marie > > > > > _______________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Yes, I agree with you, Carol. FBL's tone toward Christopher was unwarrented. 's Ashtanga site isn't as easthetically pleasing or as easy to navigate as the EZBorad site. But, on the whole, it's a lot more cordial and respectful. It would be nice to keep it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Could someone explain what the difference is between full and half vinyasa? I also feel the need to say that I don't think Christopher was being arrogant when he gave his opinion. I am not the moderator of this group, but I do think that on any listserve it is better to not take things to a personal level, it benefits no one. We should try to say what we need to say without being negative on a personal level towards other members of the group.....that is the least that should happen on a yoga listserve....that is just my opinion. ~om shanti~ carol ashtanga yoga, funkybadlady <no_reply> wrote: > You know, Christopher, full vinyasa done everyday for an entire > lifetime is very likely bad for the heart for most people which is > why Guruji says this. It's just way too much. And, how you > practice is not up to the practicioner, it is up to the teacher which > is why you take advise and information about Ashtanga Yoga > directly from Pattabhi Jois and you don't make up your own mind > about whether half or full vinyasa is good or bad for you. > Remember you are developing a practice that you will do for > many many years of you are that lucky. > > For someone who has little experience it seems arrogant to give > out the kind of advise you do. Guruji is a very wise man and he > has many years of experience both practicing Ashtanga as well > as observing students. I would say that clearly, you are wasting > the money you pay him, especially if you are going to make up > your own kind of yoga practice. > > FBL > > > ashtanga yoga, "Christopher Seal" < > christopher_seal@h...> wrote: > > On the other astanga board I'm on someone who'd been to > Mysore fairly > > recently quoted SKPJ as saying "full vinyasa bad for heart" or > something to > > that effect and that he'd stopped teaching it. I doubt it's bad for > the > > heart but either way doing full or half is up to the practitioner. > I've > > practiced both and don't see how it could really improve or > degrade the > > ultimate benefits of the practice. > > > > > > "ImpliedPresence" <hmmmmmmm@o...> > > ashtanga yoga > > ashtanga yoga > > ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa > > Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:09:43 -0400 > > > > It has been interesting to read all of the various replies to the > question > > regarding doing a full or half vinyasa between asanas in first > (and second?) > > series. > > > > It makes sense to me that, although John Scott's book outlines > doing the > > full vinyasa between asanas, when doing a full practice, > people (including > > those in Mysore) usually do a half vinyasa. > > > > For my part, I haven't been to Mysore, so I can't say what > happens there. > > Also, I realize that some people think any Ashtanga learned > outside of > > Mysore isn't "as authentic" as that which is taught there... that's > fine... > > what I can offer is what I've learned from teachers who were > once taught in > > Mysore themselves... whether this is authentic teaching or not, > I will and > > cannot say. However, their instruction and support have been > helpful to me, > > so I'll share part of it here. > > > > Both David Swenson and David Williams teach a half vinyasa > between asanas. > > From what I can remember, Manju Jois does not teach full > vinyasa either. > > Can any one else confirm this? > > > > When it comes to my own practice, I cannot imagine doing full > vinyasa, as > > doing first series with half vinyasas takes me more than an > hour and a half > > already. About once a week, I do first and second series > together, and the > > time is over 2 hours. Making my practices longer (by doing full > vinyasas) > > is just not possible. > > > > That's my more-than-two-cents, take it for what it's worth (or > not) to you, > > Heather Marie > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 in full vinyasa you come all the way to samastitihi between asanas - so essentially one surya namaskara A between each asana. In half vinyasa you do a portion of surya namaskara A between each asana and between each side of each asana (the way I learned half was: from seated - jump back, chatvari (4th position in sun salutation), up dog, down dog, jump through. hopefully that's right and I won't get flamed again. carohelwig ashtanga yoga ashtanga yoga Re: ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:18:52 -0000 Could someone explain what the difference is between full and half vinyasa? I also feel the need to say that I don't think Christopher was being arrogant when he gave his opinion. I am not the moderator of this group, but I do think that on any listserve it is better to not take things to a personal level, it benefits no one. We should try to say what we need to say without being negative on a personal level towards other members of the group.....that is the least that should happen on a yoga listserve....that is just my opinion. ~om shanti~ carol ashtanga yoga, funkybadlady wrote: >You know, Christopher, full vinyasa done everyday for an entire lifetime is >very likely bad for the heart for most people which is why Guruji says >this. It's just way too much. And, how you practice is not up to the >practicioner, it is up to the teacher which >is why you take advise and information about Ashtanga Yoga directly from >Pattabhi Jois and you don't make up your own mind about whether half or >full vinyasa is good or bad for you. Remember you are developing a practice >that you will do for many many years of you are that lucky. > >For someone who has little experience it seems arrogant to give out the >kind of advise you do. Guruji is a very wise man and he has many years of >experience both practicing Ashtanga as well as observing students. I would >say that clearly, you are wasting the money you pay him, especially if you >are going to make up your own kind of yoga practice. > >FBL > > >ashtanga yoga, "Christopher Seal" < >christopher_seal@h...> wrote: > On the other astanga board I'm on someone >who'd been to Mysore fairly > recently quoted SKPJ as saying "full vinyasa >bad for heart" or something to > that effect and that he'd stopped teaching >it. I doubt it's bad for >the > heart but either way doing full or half is up to the practitioner. >I've > practiced both and don't see how it could really improve or degrade >the > ultimate benefits of the practice. > > > "ImpliedPresence" > >ashtanga yoga > > ashtanga yoga >Regarding full or half vinyasa > Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:09:43 -0400 > > >It has been interesting to read all of the various replies to the question > > regarding doing a full or half vinyasa between asanas in first (and >second?) > series. > > It makes sense to me that, although John Scott's >book outlines doing the > full vinyasa between asanas, when doing a full >practice, people (including > those in Mysore) usually do a half vinyasa. > > > For my part, I haven't been to Mysore, so I can't say what happens >there. > Also, I realize that some people think any Ashtanga learned >outside of > Mysore isn't "as authentic" as that which is taught there... that's >fine... > what I can offer is what I've learned from teachers who were once >taught in > Mysore themselves... whether this is authentic teaching or not, >I will and > cannot say. However, their instruction and support have been >helpful to me, > so I'll share part of it here. > > Both David Swenson and >David Williams teach a half vinyasa between asanas. > From what I can >remember, Manju Jois does not teach full vinyasa either. > Can any one else >confirm this? > > When it comes to my own practice, I cannot imagine doing >full vinyasa, as > doing first series with half vinyasas takes me more than >an hour and a half > already. About once a week, I do first and second >series together, and the > time is over 2 hours. Making my practices longer >(by doing full vinyasas) > is just not possible. > > That's my >more-than-two-cents, take it for what it's worth (or not) to you, > Heather >Marie > > > > > >_______________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN >8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 HI CAROL, I couldn't agree with you more. Dolly. --- carohelwig <no_reply> wrote: Could someone explain what the difference is between full and half vinyasa? I also feel the need to say that I don't think Christopher was being arrogant when he gave his opinion. I am not the moderator of this group, but I do think that on any listserve it is better to not take things to a personal level, it benefits no one. We should try to say what we need to say without being negative on a personal level towards other members of the group.....that is the least that should happen on a yoga listserve....that is just my opinion. ~om shanti~ carol ashtanga yoga, funkybadlady <no_reply> wrote: > You know, Christopher, full vinyasa done everyday for an entire > lifetime is very likely bad for the heart for most people which is > why Guruji says this. It's just way too much. And, how you > practice is not up to the practicioner, it is up to the teacher which > is why you take advise and information about Ashtanga Yoga > directly from Pattabhi Jois and you don't make up your own mind > about whether half or full vinyasa is good or bad for you. > Remember you are developing a practice that you will do for > many many years of you are that lucky. > > For someone who has little experience it seems arrogant to give > out the kind of advise you do. Guruji is a very wise man and he > has many years of experience both practicing Ashtanga as well > as observing students. I would say that clearly, you are wasting > the money you pay him, especially if you are going to make up > your own kind of yoga practice. > > FBL > > > ashtanga yoga, "Christopher Seal" < > christopher_seal@h...> wrote: > > On the other astanga board I'm on someone who'd been to > Mysore fairly > > recently quoted SKPJ as saying "full vinyasa bad for heart" or > something to > > that effect and that he'd stopped teaching it. I doubt it's bad for > the > > heart but either way doing full or half is up to the practitioner. > I've > > practiced both and don't see how it could really improve or > degrade the > > ultimate benefits of the practice. > > > > > > "ImpliedPresence" <hmmmmmmm@o...> > > ashtanga yoga > > ashtanga yoga > > ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa > > Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:09:43 -0400 > > > > It has been interesting to read all of the various replies to the > question > > regarding doing a full or half vinyasa between asanas in first > (and second?) > > series. > > > > It makes sense to me that, although John Scott's book outlines > doing the > > full vinyasa between asanas, when doing a full practice, > people (including > > those in Mysore) usually do a half vinyasa. > > > > For my part, I haven't been to Mysore, so I can't say what > happens there. > > Also, I realize that some people think any Ashtanga learned > outside of > > Mysore isn't "as authentic" as that which is taught there... that's > fine... > > what I can offer is what I've learned from teachers who were > once taught in > > Mysore themselves... whether this is authentic teaching or not, > I will and > > cannot say. However, their instruction and support have been > helpful to me, > > so I'll share part of it here. > > > > Both David Swenson and David Williams teach a half vinyasa > between asanas. > > From what I can remember, Manju Jois does not teach full > vinyasa either. > > Can any one else confirm this? > > > > When it comes to my own practice, I cannot imagine doing full > vinyasa, as > > doing first series with half vinyasas takes me more than an > hour and a half > > already. About once a week, I do first and second series > together, and the > > time is over 2 hours. Making my practices longer (by doing full > vinyasas) > > is just not possible. > > > > That's my more-than-two-cents, take it for what it's worth (or > not) to you, > > Heather Marie > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Sponsor ashtanga yoga Terms of Service. Plus For a better Internet experience http://www..co.uk/btoffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Okay maybe i missed the first part of this 'debate/discussion' but what is the full vinyasa and what is the half? --- Christopher Seal <christopher_seal wrote: > > If simply choosing between half or full vinyasa > constitutes "making up my > own practice" then yes, I am recklessly creative and > clearly a rogue > ashtangi. It just seems to me that very senior > western students, john scott > and leino meile for example, advocate and or teach > full vinyasa. These are > individuals who know a lot more than you (I presume, > though I don't know who > you are) or I , and are fairly close to guruji, and > the fact that they still > do this leads me to believe there is some breathing > room for personal choice > in whether or not you do full or half. If it were > truly that bad for the > heart and guruji was adamantly against it why does > he allow some of his most > famous students to teach it and give his blessings > to books that include it. > Books and classes that will presumably form the > basis for some beginners > lifelong practice. I'm just skeptical about it > that's all. If you have the > inside scoop on why this is I'd be more than happy > to mend my arrogant ways. > > > > funkybadlady > ashtanga yoga > ashtanga yoga > Re: ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half > vinyasa > Thu, 17 Apr 2003 02:35:02 -0000 > You know, Christopher, full vinyasa done everyday > for an entire > lifetime is very likely bad for the heart for most > people which is > why Guruji says this. It's just way too much. And, > how you > practice is not up to the practicioner, it is up to > the teacher which > is why you take advise and information about > Ashtanga Yoga > directly from Pattabhi Jois and you don't make up > your own mind > about whether half or full vinyasa is good or bad > for you. > Remember you are developing a practice that you will > do for > many many years of you are that lucky. > For someone who has little experience it seems > arrogant to give > out the kind of advise you do. Guruji is a very wise > man and he > has many years of experience both practicing > Ashtanga as well > as observing students. I would say that clearly, you > are wasting > the money you pay him, especially if you are going > to make up > your own kind of yoga practice. > FBL > ashtanga yoga, "Christopher > Seal" < > christopher_seal@h...> wrote: > >On the other astanga board I'm on someone who'd > been to > Mysore fairly > >recently quoted SKPJ as saying "full vinyasa bad > for heart" or > something to > >that effect and that he'd stopped teaching it. I > doubt it's bad for > the > >heart but either way doing full or half is up to > the practitioner. > I've > >practiced both and don't see how it could really > improve or > degrade the > >ultimate benefits of the practice. > > > > > >"ImpliedPresence" > ashtanga yoga Subject: > >ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa > Tue, 15 Apr 2003 > >13:09:43 -0400 > > > >It has been interesting to read all of the various > replies to the > question > >regarding doing a full or half vinyasa between > asanas in first > (and second?) > >series. > > > >It makes sense to me that, although John Scott's > book outlines > doing the > >full vinyasa between asanas, when doing a full > practice, > people (including > >those in Mysore) usually do a half vinyasa. > > > >For my part, I haven't been to Mysore, so I can't > say what > happens there. > >Also, I realize that some people think any Ashtanga > learned > outside of > >Mysore isn't "as authentic" as that which is taught > there... that's > fine... > >what I can offer is what I've learned from teachers > who were > once taught in > >Mysore themselves... whether this is authentic > teaching or not, > I will and > >cannot say. However, their instruction and support > have been > helpful to me, > >so I'll share part of it here. > > > >Both David Swenson and David Williams teach a half > vinyasa > between asanas. > >From what I can remember, Manju Jois does not teach > full > vinyasa either. > >Can any one else confirm this? > > > >When it comes to my own practice, I cannot imagine > doing full > vinyasa, as > >doing first series with half vinyasas takes me more > than an > hour and a half > >already. About once a week, I do first and second > series > together, and the > >time is over 2 hours. Making my practices longer > (by doing full > vinyasas) > >is just not possible. > > > >That's my more-than-two-cents, take it for what > it's worth (or > not) to you, > >Heather Marie > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection > with MSN 8. > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months > FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2003 Report Share Posted April 18, 2003 I just spent two months practicing with Lino and two months practicing with Guruji and I can tell you that neither teach full vinyasa...Lino did say that full vinyasa is beneficial for certain people to build strength, but should only be practiced under the guidance of a certified teacher. In Mysore, noone practices full vinyasa, at least not tht I have seen in the two months that I have been here. I do not know about John Scott, or what he teaches... --- Rock Chick <rokchik666 wrote: > Okay maybe i missed the first part of this > 'debate/discussion' but what is the full vinyasa and > what is the half? > > > --- Christopher Seal <christopher_seal > wrote: > > > > If simply choosing between half or full vinyasa > > constitutes "making up my > > own practice" then yes, I am recklessly creative > and > > clearly a rogue > > ashtangi. It just seems to me that very senior > > western students, john scott > > and leino meile for example, advocate and or teach > > full vinyasa. These are > > individuals who know a lot more than you (I > presume, > > though I don't know who > > you are) or I , and are fairly close to guruji, > and > > the fact that they still > > do this leads me to believe there is some > breathing > > room for personal choice > > in whether or not you do full or half. If it were > > truly that bad for the > > heart and guruji was adamantly against it why does > > he allow some of his most > > famous students to teach it and give his blessings > > to books that include it. > > Books and classes that will presumably form the > > basis for some beginners > > lifelong practice. I'm just skeptical about it > > that's all. If you have the > > inside scoop on why this is I'd be more than happy > > to mend my arrogant ways. > > > > > > > > funkybadlady > > ashtanga yoga > > ashtanga yoga > > Re: ashtanga yoga Regarding full or > half > > vinyasa > > Thu, 17 Apr 2003 02:35:02 -0000 > > You know, Christopher, full vinyasa done everyday > > for an entire > > lifetime is very likely bad for the heart for most > > people which is > > why Guruji says this. It's just way too much. And, > > how you > > practice is not up to the practicioner, it is up > to > > the teacher which > > is why you take advise and information about > > Ashtanga Yoga > > directly from Pattabhi Jois and you don't make up > > your own mind > > about whether half or full vinyasa is good or bad > > for you. > > Remember you are developing a practice that you > will > > do for > > many many years of you are that lucky. > > For someone who has little experience it seems > > arrogant to give > > out the kind of advise you do. Guruji is a very > wise > > man and he > > has many years of experience both practicing > > Ashtanga as well > > as observing students. I would say that clearly, > you > > are wasting > > the money you pay him, especially if you are going > > to make up > > your own kind of yoga practice. > > FBL > > ashtanga yoga, "Christopher > > Seal" < > > christopher_seal@h...> wrote: > > >On the other astanga board I'm on someone who'd > > been to > > Mysore fairly > > >recently quoted SKPJ as saying "full vinyasa bad > > for heart" or > > something to > > >that effect and that he'd stopped teaching it. I > > doubt it's bad for > > the > > >heart but either way doing full or half is up to > > the practitioner. > > I've > > >practiced both and don't see how it could really > > improve or > > degrade the > > >ultimate benefits of the practice. > > > > > > > > >"ImpliedPresence" > > ashtanga yoga Subject: > > >ashtanga yoga Regarding full or half vinyasa > > Tue, 15 Apr 2003 > > >13:09:43 -0400 > > > > > >It has been interesting to read all of the > various > > replies to the > > question > > >regarding doing a full or half vinyasa between > > asanas in first > > (and second?) > > >series. > > > > > >It makes sense to me that, although John Scott's > > book outlines > > doing the > > >full vinyasa between asanas, when doing a full > > practice, > > people (including > > >those in Mysore) usually do a half vinyasa. > > > > > >For my part, I haven't been to Mysore, so I can't > > say what > > happens there. > > >Also, I realize that some people think any > Ashtanga > > learned > > outside of > > >Mysore isn't "as authentic" as that which is > taught > > there... that's > > fine... > > >what I can offer is what I've learned from > teachers > > who were > > once taught in > > >Mysore themselves... whether this is authentic > > teaching or not, > > I will and > > >cannot say. However, their instruction and > support > > have been > > helpful to me, > > >so I'll share part of it here. > > > > > >Both David Swenson and David Williams teach a > half > > vinyasa > > between asanas. > > >From what I can remember, Manju Jois does not > teach > > full > > vinyasa either. > > >Can any one else confirm this? > > > > > >When it comes to my own practice, I cannot > imagine > > doing full > > vinyasa, as > > >doing first series with half vinyasas takes me > more > > than an > > hour and a half > > >already. About once a week, I do first and second > > series > > together, and the > > >time is over 2 hours. Making my practices longer > > (by doing full > > vinyasas) > > >is just not possible. > > > > > >That's my more-than-two-cents, take it for what > > it's worth (or > > not) to you, > > >Heather Marie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > >Tired of spam? 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