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In relation to the points presented by the leather-bag

producer: I think that if Yoga teaches ahimsa, not

everybody that does Yoga need to follow ahimsa, but

that does not justify them going against ahimsa. If

their intention is to be a practitioner of Yoga, and

since ahimsa is a principle inherent to all main Yoga

traditions, it is a matter of coherence not to deny

it. It is the same as to be a vegetarian and to eat

meat. Also, the meat industry, as other industries in

general, dimensions its production capacity based on

demand forecast for all by-products, for reasons of

managerial economy. Thus not necessarily leather is

always simply a by-product, and it might have

independent influence on the production decision.

Regards,

 

Eduardo

 

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> 1. Re: videos in Europe

> "Eskil Schilling" <esseva

> 2. Ahimsa Issue: Leather Yoga Mat Bags?

> eganvay <eganvay

> 3. Ashtanga Videos etc in Europe

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> 4. Re: Ahimsa Issue: Leather Yoga Mat Bags?

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> Thu, 22 May 2003 11:14:47 +0200

> "Eskil Schilling" <esseva

> Re: videos in Europe

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> Hi

> All the video you can buy from www.theyogashop.co.uk

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> greetings

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> Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:26 AM

> ashtanga yoga videos in Europe

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> H,

> m searching a shop in good old Europe, where I can

> bye videos from

> Richard the Freeman and David our Swenson.

> Somebody from Europe

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> Thu, 22 May 2003 07:38:41 -0700 (PDT)

> eganvay <eganvay

> Ahimsa Issue: Leather Yoga Mat Bags?

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> > elena [elena]

> > Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:38 PM

> > 'openmind'

> > Cc: 'info'

> > Leather Yoga Mat Bags?

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> > Namaste Yoga Journal Staff

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> > I am a yoga teacher and long time yoga

> practitioner,

> > and I have observed

> > changes in the yoga community - some changes are

> > beautiful periods of

> > growth, some changes take us away from the key

> > principles of yoga.

> > Beginning with issue #174, the June 2003 issue,

> full

> > page advertising

> > for leather yoga mat bags was published in Yoga

> > Journal. This takes us

> > away from the key concepts of Ahimsa

> (non-violence)

> > and the love and

> > respect for all life, which we connect with when

> we

> > practice. Placing a

> > yoga mat in a leather bag is a very direct

> > confrontation between the

> > life affirming practice of yoga and the death of

> an

> > animal for material

> > gain. We have many other options than they did in

> > ancient times. You

> > accept advertising from manufacturers creating

> bags

> > out of recycled

> > materials, organic materials and renewable

> > resources, from which mat

> > bags are generally made. Leather mat bags take us

> > many steps away from

> > a healthier and more compassionate lifestyle. I

> > hope you reconsider

> > accepting advertising for products which are not

> in

> > keeping with the

> > values of yoga.

> >

> > Respectfully submitted

> >

> > Elena Case

> >

> > Focal Point Yoga, Stow, MA

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> > Geb Masterson

> > [Gmasterson]

> > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:12 PM

> > 'elena'; openmind

> > RE: Leather Yoga Mat Bags?

> > Importance: High

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> > Dear Elena -

> >

> > Thank you very much for your note, and let me say

> > that we understand and

> > appreciate your opinion and passion.

> >

> > We are very aware of the 'non-violence' teachings

> of

> > Yoga. As we state

> > on our site, the leather we use is strictly a

> > byproduct of the food

> > industry, these animals where not killed for their

> > hides. The hides that

> > we use would be discarded if they were not

> recycled

> > for other uses. We

> > are not talking 'exotic' animals here, such as

> > crocodiles, alligators,

> > mink, etc. that might be killed just for the value

> > of their hide --

> > these where cows that were killed for their meat

> by

> > native people in

> > countries that depend on meat for sustenance. To

> > this day, meat is still

> > a dietary staple in most of the world's various

> > cultures. I cannot

> > change that and I also do not try to judge people

> by

> > their beliefs.

> >

> > I believe one could also argue that Yoga teaches

> one

> > to be

> > understanding, non-judgmental and non-political

> but

> > today there are

> > people that seem to believe that they 'own' the

> true

>

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