Guest guest Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 Hi Everyone, I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was wondering how long approximatly will it take me to be able to do the First Series. I am so out of breath during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible compare to the rest of the class. I have been practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 years. I'm just curious to know how long it took some of you to be totally comfortable. Thank you for your replies. Namaste, Sonia Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 I thought I would throw some penny for your thoughts out here. I have come from a similiar path, but my transition to Ashtanga comes following more the ten years of inactivity. It took me almost a year just to do Sun without choking, gasping and crying. I was extremely inflexible. Little by little things started to fall into place literally. I learned that Ashtanga is a wholely different discipline than Hatha. The one thing I took from Hatha and applied to Ashtanga was the preciseness of the asana and the use of straps. I have had many injuries in the past and I firmly believe that I have avoided soreness and injury by keeping my body in an aligned position. I do not have the benefit of having a teacher and I am working my way through the primary series. I do not as a rule compare myself to others because in this system no two people will do an asana the same way. I tried different things, e.g., the health club I belong to has a heated pool and floating snorkels, you guessed it I try to do Astanga underwater in the deep end. Works for me! I was standing next my son the other day who is now a Marine officer and realized that although we have the same measurements almost our builds and weights are dramatically different. He is ripped and I look as though I am just starting to pop out. Everything changes when the workouts start and my musculature is more pronounced than his. Don't fret over this. Keep working and close your eyes sometimes and visualize with your breathing where you are in the asana, you might find yourself flowing. ashtanga yoga, "trulyscrumshess" <budokanasana@a...> wrote: > I recently started and and in a similar situation. After the first B > salutation it's a challenge to maintain smooth breathing for the rest > of the B's. I'm pretty confident that my endurance will immprove > fairly regularly if I keep practicing. However I have no idea whether > I will master the First Series in my liftime (given the age of my > body, mild arthritis and regular stiffness, and my current ability > level), but I'll get to wherever I get. Is this a good way to look at > it? > > ashtanga yoga, Sonia <soniaoxo> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was > > wondering how long approximatly will it take me to be > > able to do the First Series. I am so out of breath > > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible > > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 > > years. > > > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some of you > > to be totally comfortable. > > > > Thank you for your replies. > > > > Namaste, > > Sonia > > > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > > http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 I think it is a wonderful way to look at it! I will continue practicing until I am not out of breath anymore and Im sure that the rest will follow. Namaste, S --- trulyscrumshess <budokanasana wrote: > I recently started and and in a similar situation. > After the first B > salutation it's a challenge to maintain smooth > breathing for the rest > of the B's. I'm pretty confident that my endurance > will immprove > fairly regularly if I keep practicing. However I > have no idea whether > I will master the First Series in my liftime (given > the age of my > body, mild arthritis and regular stiffness, and my > current ability > level), but I'll get to wherever I get. Is this a > good way to look at > it? > > ashtanga yoga, Sonia > <soniaoxo> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was > > wondering how long approximatly will it take me to > be > > able to do the First Series. I am so out of > breath > > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible > > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 > > years. > > > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some of > you > > to be totally comfortable. > > > > Thank you for your replies. > > > > Namaste, > > Sonia > > > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you > want. > > http://antispam./tools > > > Get better spam protection with Mail. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 I think so, the best way to practice yoga is to be sensible on your own body and mind everyday. After surya b you can feel which is your energy for that moment and the rest of the practice. Be on this very moment is very a good way to practice sincerely. Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América Latina y el resto del Mundo. Visíta Noticias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 are you doing ujjayi breathing or regular breathing? when i first started practicing, i only did ujjayi breathing after the sun salutations (during the standing, sitting, and finishing sequences). maybe if you try that, you'll be able to concentrate on the breath synchronization, and not wear yourself out so quickly. after you're comfortable, you can integrate ujjayi into the sun salutations- and then you'll really start sweating! trulyscrumshess <budokanasana wrote: I recently started and and in a similar situation. After the first B salutation it's a challenge to maintain smooth breathing for the rest of the B's. I'm pretty confident that my endurance will immprove fairly regularly if I keep practicing. However I have no idea whether I will master the First Series in my liftime (given the age of my body, mild arthritis and regular stiffness, and my current ability level), but I'll get to wherever I get. Is this a good way to look at it? ashtanga yoga, Sonia <soniaoxo> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was > wondering how long approximatly will it take me to be > able to do the First Series. I am so out of breath > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 > years. > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some of you > to be totally comfortable. > > Thank you for your replies. > > Namaste, > Sonia > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > http://antispam./tools ashtanga yoga Get better spam protection with Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 hi Trulyscrumshess Yoga is about paying attention to what happens to the present, and the asanas help in enabling us to pay attentiong to the sensations in the body as we are doing an asana. In the yoga sutra, it is said that the mind can be stilled through constant practice and non-attachment. non attachment to the results or out come of the practice because it is not the most important, wat is more important is to pay attention in watever you are doing, ie when you are in a posture. When you pay attention, your mind becomes an observer. you are then no longer restricted by what you think u can or cannot do. you will then start to explore how your body works, etc slowly the obstables will be removed, obstacles of the mind as well as the body. Think about paying attention first, and all will come. afterall, yoga is not about being able to do the most advanced poses, it is about opening up the mind , changing your attitude and observing the present as it is. hope it makes sense. Best wises WEn anasana wrote: I recently started and and in a similar situation. After the first B salutation it's a challenge to maintain smooth breathing for the rest of the B's. I'm pretty confident that my endurance will immprove fairly regularly if I keep practicing. However I have no idea whether I will master the First Series in my liftime (given the age of my body, mild arthritis and regular stiffness, and my current ability level), but I'll get to wherever I get. Is this a good way to look at it? ashtanga yoga, Sonia <soniaoxo> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was > wondering how long approximatly will it take me to be > able to do the First Series. I am so out of breath > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 > years. > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some of you > to be totally comfortable. > > Thank you for your replies. > > Namaste, > Sonia > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > http://antispam./tools ashtanga yoga Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Thank you, I will try to do the ujjayi brathing even though I thing I am trying I am not really concentrationg on it I will also practice what Wen suggested which is to meditate and not thnk about the fact that I am out of breath just keep my mind on my practice and not the outcome. Thank you all Sonia --- f l <daesnala0 wrote: > are you doing ujjayi breathing or regular breathing? > when i first started practicing, i only did ujjayi > breathing after the sun salutations (during the > standing, sitting, and finishing sequences). maybe > if you try that, you'll be able to concentrate on > the breath synchronization, and not wear yourself > out so quickly. after you're comfortable, you can > integrate ujjayi into the sun salutations- and then > you'll really start sweating! > > trulyscrumshess <budokanasana wrote: I > recently started and and in a similar situation. > After the first B > salutation it's a challenge to maintain smooth > breathing for the rest > of the B's. I'm pretty confident that my endurance > will immprove > fairly regularly if I keep practicing. However I > have no idea whether > I will master the First Series in my liftime (given > the age of my > body, mild arthritis and regular stiffness, and my > current ability > level), but I'll get to wherever I get. Is this a > good way to look at > it? > > ashtanga yoga, Sonia > <soniaoxo> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was > > wondering how long approximatly will it take me to > be > > able to do the First Series. I am so out of > breath > > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible > > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 > > years. > > > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some of > you > > to be totally comfortable. > > > > Thank you for your replies. > > > > Namaste, > > Sonia > > > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you > want. > > http://antispam./tools > > > > > > Links > > > > > > ashtanga yoga > > Your use of is subject to the > > > Get better spam protection with Mail > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Get better spam protection with Mail. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Zekes7, Thank you you really inspire me, I love your Karma thanks a million once again. Namaste, Sonia --- zekes7 <zekes7 wrote: > I thought I would throw some penny for your thoughts > out here. I > have come from a similiar path, but my transition to > Ashtanga comes > following more the ten years of inactivity. It took > me almost a year > just to do Sun without choking, gasping and crying. > I was extremely > inflexible. Little by little things started to fall > into place > literally. I learned that Ashtanga is a wholely > different discipline > than Hatha. The one thing I took from Hatha and > applied to Ashtanga > was the preciseness of the asana and the use of > straps. I have had > many injuries in the past and I firmly believe that > I have avoided > soreness and injury by keeping my body in an aligned > position. I do > not have the benefit of having a teacher and I am > working my way > through the primary series. I do not as a rule > compare myself to > others because in this system no two people will do > an asana the same > way. I tried different things, e.g., the health > club I belong to has > a heated pool and floating snorkels, you guessed it > I try to do > Astanga underwater in the deep end. Works for me! > I was standing > next my son the other day who is now a Marine > officer and realized > that although we have the same measurements almost > our builds and > weights are dramatically different. He is ripped > and I look as > though I am just starting to pop out. Everything > changes when the > workouts start and my musculature is more pronounced > than his. Don't > fret over this. Keep working and close your eyes > sometimes and > visualize with your breathing where you are in the > asana, you might > find yourself flowing. > > ashtanga yoga, > "trulyscrumshess" > <budokanasana@a...> wrote: > > I recently started and and in a similar situation. > After the first > B > > salutation it's a challenge to maintain smooth > breathing for the > rest > > of the B's. I'm pretty confident that my endurance > will immprove > > fairly regularly if I keep practicing. However I > have no idea > whether > > I will master the First Series in my liftime > (given the age of my > > body, mild arthritis and regular stiffness, and my > current ability > > level), but I'll get to wherever I get. Is this a > good way to look > at > > it? > > > > ashtanga yoga, Sonia > <soniaoxo> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I > was > > > wondering how long approximatly will it take me > to be > > > able to do the First Series. I am so out of > breath > > > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so > unflexible > > > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > > > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about > 2 > > > years. > > > > > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some > of you > > > to be totally comfortable. > > > > > > Thank you for your replies. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you > want. > > > http://antispam./tools > > > Get better spam protection with Mail. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 "Do your practice and all is coming..." A point of comfortability is relative. I have been practicing Astanga for approximately 2 years, regularly, and I am comfortable in my knowledge of the primary series. However, some of the postures are not 'perfect' in the sense of the word. It sounds like you are pushing yourself too hard. Try this: one day do nothing but sun salutations. Practice the movement slowly, focus on one point and remember to inhale when opening and exhale when folding. Your movement should be even with your breathing. Maybe you are not breathing properly. I recommend 'Yoga Mala' by Pattabhi Jois. The book describes the primary series: how to breathe, when to inhale, when to exhale...etc. Great reading; excellent resource. I'd be happy to give you more info. E-mail me at beasti2620 Something else to remember: yoga is union with your mind and body; not union with another mind and body. I understand how distracting it can be to see more flexible people around you, but you must concentrate on your own body. Think of it this way: more than likely those people, at one point in time, were not as flexible, couldn't focus and felt exhausted after a round of sun salutations. The practice is a time for you. Work with your body, listen to your body and, most importantly, respect your body. Take your time. Namaste Christina ashtanga yoga, Sonia <soniaoxo> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was > wondering how long approximatly will it take me to be > able to do the First Series. I am so out of breath > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 > years. > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some of you > to be totally comfortable. > > Thank you for your replies. > > Namaste, > Sonia > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 i sweat buckets when i do ujjayi breathing during my vinyasas. i also get a light sweat when i practice ujjayi by itself. Here is some information about why ujjayi breathing causes sweat and it's benefits: http://www.yogayoga.com/ashtanga/FAQs#q11 Breathing and moving together while performing asanas (postures) makes the blood hot. Thick blood is dirty and causes disease in the body. The heat created from yoga cleans the blood and makes it thin, so that it may circulate freely. The combination of the asanas with movement and breath make the blood circulate freely around all the joints, taking away body pains. The heated blood also moves through all the internal organs removing impurities and disease, which are brought out of the body by the sweat that occurs during practice. Sweat is an important by-product of vinyasa. Yoga creates a heat that brings all our toxins to the surface, which are removed through sweat. The body then becomes healthy and strong. After the body is purified, the nervous system and the sense organs become purified. Heat enhances the delivery of blood to the muscles. This means that the capillaries that weave around the muscles respond to the heat by dilation. This brings more oxygen to the muscles and helps in the removal of waste products. When blood passes through warm muscles, oxygen releases more easily. Heat speeds up the breakdown of glucose and fatty acids. It also makes muscles more elastic and less susceptible to injury. Heat improves coordination and burns fat more easily. Higher temperatures improve the function of the nervous system, meaning that messages are carried more rapidly to and from the brain or spinal cord. Warmer temperatures produce a more fluid stretch, allowing for a greater range of motion. :::: also- since you didn't know to do ujjayi breathing during your vinyasas, ask your teacher to help your with your dristis (gaze points). i find that when my mind is concentrating on my ujjayi breathing, breath syncronicity, and gaze points; it doesn't have a lot of room for becoming frustrated. It may seem like a lot of work at first, but it becomes very relaxing, and with each exhalation the stretch becomes deeper. trulyscrumshess <budokanasana wrote: my teacher checked my breathing on the b salutations the other day and sure enough i was starting with nasal breathing instead of ujjayi. she gave me direction to use a smooth ujjayi breath even during the salutations so i'm trying to focus on that. are you saying you sweat more with ujjayi breathing than with regular? if that is true, does anyone know why? ashtanga yoga, f l <daesnala0> wrote: > are you doing ujjayi breathing or regular breathing? when i first started practicing, i only did ujjayi breathing after the sun salutations (during the standing, sitting, and finishing sequences). maybe if you try that, you'll be able to concentrate on the breath synchronization, and not wear yourself out so quickly. after you're comfortable, you can integrate ujjayi into the sun salutations- and then you'll really start sweating! > > trulyscrumshess <budokanasana@a...> wrote: I recently started and and in a similar situation. After the first B > salutation it's a challenge to maintain smooth breathing for the rest > of the B's. I'm pretty confident that my endurance will immprove > fairly regularly if I keep practicing. However I have no idea whether > I will master the First Series in my liftime (given the age of my > body, mild arthritis and regular stiffness, and my current ability > level), but I'll get to wherever I get. Is this a good way to look at > it? > > ashtanga yoga, Sonia <soniaoxo> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was > > wondering how long approximatly will it take me to be > > able to do the First Series. I am so out of breath > > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible > > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 > > years. > > > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some of you > > to be totally comfortable. > > > > Thank you for your replies. > > > > Namaste, > > Sonia > > > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > > http://antispam./tools > > > > > > Links > > > > > > ashtanga yoga > > Terms of Service. > > Get better spam protection with Mail > > Sponsor Click Here ashtanga yoga Search - Find what you’re looking for faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 trulyscrumshess <budokanasana wrote: my teacher checked my breathing on the b salutations the other day and sure enough i was starting with nasal breathing instead of ujjayi. she gave me direction to use a smooth ujjayi breath even during the salutations so i'm trying to focus on that. are you saying you sweat more with ujjayi breathing than with regular? if that is true, does anyone know why? ashtanga yoga, f l <daesnala0> wrote: > are you doing ujjayi breathing or regular breathing? when i first started practicing, i only did ujjayi breathing after the sun salutations (during the standing, sitting, and finishing sequences). maybe if you try that, you'll be able to concentrate on the breath synchronization, and not wear yourself out so quickly. after you're comfortable, you can integrate ujjayi into the sun salutations- and then you'll really start sweating! > > trulyscrumshess <budokanasana@a...> wrote: I recently started and and in a similar situation. After the first B > salutation it's a challenge to maintain smooth breathing for the rest > of the B's. I'm pretty confident that my endurance will immprove > fairly regularly if I keep practicing. However I have no idea whether > I will master the First Series in my liftime (given the age of my > body, mild arthritis and regular stiffness, and my current ability > level), but I'll get to wherever I get. Is this a good way to look at > it? > > ashtanga yoga, Sonia <soniaoxo> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I just started to practice Ashtanga Yoga and I was > > wondering how long approximatly will it take me to be > > able to do the First Series. I am so out of breath > > during the Sun Salutation and I feel so unflexible > > compare to the rest of the class. I have been > > practicing Hatha Yoga and Iyengar yoga for about 2 > > years. > > > > I'm just curious to know how long it took some of you > > to be totally comfortable. > > > > Thank you for your replies. > > > > Namaste, > > Sonia > > > > > > > > Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > > http://antispam./tools > > > > > > Links > > > > > > ashtanga yoga > > Terms of Service. > > hi i am new to ashtanga yoga, can anyone give me instructions on how to do ujjay breath. Is it breathing from the back of the throat. thankyou hazel > > > > > > > Get better spam protection with Mail > > Sponsor Click Here ashtanga yoga Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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