Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 IMO, any form of practice can be considered a path towards 'channeling'. Whether it be piano practice, yoga practice, an art practice, etc. All forms of practice are aims to perfect the technical means to allow for higher states of consciousness. And the expression of those states. Conceptually, the idea of 'channeling' is misleading, it can lead you in the wrong direction in terms of expectation, the image of what you 'hope' to achieve from those expectations, and the objectives that inevitably spring up from this way of thinking. I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening when 25, i had done no prior form of spiritual practice...i was not 'channeling'....not consciously anyways... stranded711 <stranded711 wrote: A friend of mine whom I introduced to yoga told me he discussed it with his minister and that his minister said that at its core yoga is a form of "channeling." This minister said it can be dangerous... this is a form of the Kundalini argument advanced by Jung in his lectures on Kundalini Yoga, that there is a danger to it. I disagree with this idea, but was curious, does anyone here see yoga as form of mediumistic channeling? ashtanga yoga Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 well, I am a practicing Catholic and do not find yoga in anyway in opposition to my religion but rather enhances the spiritual practice of my religion. it's all good, maintaining the body that God gave me in the most positive way to do His work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 >From what I understand, yoga is a tool used by several religions (though chiefly Hinduism and Buddhism), to deepen their spiritual understanding. Many well-respected Christian mystics used very similar practices, such as fasting, meditation, prayer and contemplation, to achieve "those states", and believed that they helped them to come closer to God. I'd recommend looking at some of the works of the early mystics and comparing them to Patanjali's Yoga Sutras and the Upanishads. The similarities are striking. I liked the works of Jan Van Ruysbroeck (1293 - 1381) and Origen (185-254) particularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I totally agree with all of you... Any practice that leads you to great concentration will bring such abilities... Yoga, Tai Chi, Vipassana, other kinds of meditation, doing anything, but doing it in meditation, in complete concentration! Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Thank you, I will look into getting this book, Curt ashtanga yoga, Elaine Bruce <lilelil> wrote: > > From what I understand, yoga is a tool used by several > religions (though chiefly Hinduism and Buddhism), to > deepen their spiritual understanding. > > Many well-respected Christian mystics used very > similar practices, such as fasting, meditation, prayer > and contemplation, to achieve "those states", and > believed that they helped them to come closer to God. > > I'd recommend looking at some of the works of the > early mystics and comparing them to Patanjali's Yoga > Sutras and the Upanishads. The similarities are > striking. > > I liked the works of Jan Van Ruysbroeck (1293 - 1381) > and Origen (185-254) particularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I think this is a great post, because it is true in the arts. The artist's inspiration has traditionally been explained by the idea he had a Muse, and that he was channelling so to speak the Muse's message. More recently, I think the Pschologist Carl Jung gave the Muse a new name, that of the collective unconscious. There are also many stories recounted by athletes where they achieved altered states of consciousness where they had an uncanny level of control over what was taking place in the game. (A good book on this topic is "The Ultimate Athlete.") I suppose these athletes' states could be termed a type of channeling where they connected with a higher power. I have been thinking about your post over the last several days. A very specific example is a musical group I have been listening to, Roxy Music, their music is so perfect and insightful it is as though they were channeling from another source. I can think of no other explanation for how they could produce such perfect music. Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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