Guest guest Posted March 3, 2000 Report Share Posted March 3, 2000 There was a question regarding tanmaatra. If the context is given probably list members can discuss it in more detail. In my understanding it indicates senses. This is one of the meanings though. Refer to "pancha tanmaatra saayakaa" of sahasranaama. maatra means to measure. tanmatra refers to the subtle elements which are senses, They measure/cognize the respective quantities like ruupa, rasa, gandha, sparsha, and shabda. The word maatra is used in Tamil as maattirai which means to measure. The context there is often related to length of pronunciation. Like "a" is one maatra, "aa" is two, halant is half and so on. Sanskrit dictionaries give many other meanings to these words, probably they will make sense in different contexts. ===== -- Ravi <miinalochanii miinalochanii paashamochanii shive paahi shive paahi http://www.geocities.com/miinalochanii/meenakshi/ Talk to your friends online with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2000 Report Share Posted March 3, 2000 Namaste, Shri Madhavaji's explanation is well-founded. In the context of philosophy, tanmaatraa is the special term used in Kapila Sankhya Sutras denoting what Shri. M. has explained. Prof. Ranade, in his book-"Vedanta,Culmination of Indian Thought"-has pointed out how this term has embroiled Sankhya in a controversy, and Vedanta does not use it as a philosophical base. Regards, s. >"Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava > > > Re: tanmaatra >Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:06:17 +0300 > > >This is my understanding, feel free to correct if there are any mistakes: > >"mAtra" is derived saying "meeyaMtE ghRhyaNa iti mAtrA" - means that which >grabs. The indriayas are said to be "maatras" because they grab. The >sloka "mAtrA sparSAstu kountEyA seetOshNa sukha duhkhadAH, aagamApAyinO >nityAH tAM stitikshasva bhArata" tells is that five sense organs are >specifed as "mAtras". > >How ever the word "tanmAtra" stands for a different meaning. Please read >the TatvabOdha of Sri Adishankara. tanmAtra stands for the five basic >elements (paMca mahAbhoota) As per my understanding the pancabhootas before >they undergo the pancheekarana are called as "pancatanmAtas". The mother >being the omnipotent nature mixes them and brings out the beautiful nature >(sAyaka). In deed, the whole world is nothing but the "paMceekaraNa >pancabhoota prakRti". >She brings out the five elements and creates the whole universe from them. ____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2000 Report Share Posted March 4, 2000 This is my understanding, feel free to correct if there are any mistakes: "mAtra" is derived saying "meeyaMtE ghRhyaNa iti mAtrA" - means that which grabs. The indriayas are said to be "maatras" because they grab. The sloka "mAtrA sparSAstu kountEyA seetOshNa sukha duhkhadAH, aagamApAyinO nityAH tAM stitikshasva bhArata" tells is that five sense organs are specifed as "mAtras". How ever the word "tanmAtra" stands for a different meaning. Please read the TatvabOdha of Sri Adishankara. tanmAtra stands for the five basic elements (paMca mahAbhoota) As per my understanding the pancabhootas before they undergo the pancheekarana are called as "pancatanmAtas". The mother being the omnipotent nature mixes them and brings out the beautiful nature (sAyaka). In deed, the whole world is nothing but the "paMceekaraNa pancabhoota prakRti". She brings out the five elements and creates the whole universe from them. > > Ravisankar Mayavaram [miinalochanii] > Friday, March 03, 2000 5:29 AM > > tanmaatra > > > There was a question regarding tanmaatra. If the context is > given probably > list members can discuss it in more detail. > > In my understanding it indicates senses. This is one of the meanings > though. Refer to "pancha tanmaatra saayakaa" of sahasranaama. > maatra means > to measure. tanmatra refers to the subtle elements which are > senses, They > measure/cognize the respective quantities like ruupa, rasa, gandha, > sparsha, and shabda. > > The word maatra is used in Tamil as maattirai which means to > measure. The > context there is often related to length of pronunciation. > Like "a" is one > maatra, "aa" is two, halant is half and so on. > > Sanskrit dictionaries give many other meanings to these > words, probably > they will make sense in different contexts. > > > ===== > -- > Ravi <miinalochanii > miinalochanii paashamochanii shive paahi shive paahi > http://www.geocities.com/miinalochanii/meenakshi/ > > > Talk to your friends online with Messenger. > http://im. > > ----------------------------- > ---------- > AUM shrImAtre namaH > Archives : / > : http://www.geocities.com/kaamaakshi/ > Contact : miinalochanii & lotus > > ----------------------------- > ---------- > Planning a party? iParty.com is your complete source for > party planning and > supplies, with everything you need to throw the perfect party! > http://click./1/1635/4/_/57766/_/952090033/ > > > eGroups.com home: > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2000 Report Share Posted March 6, 2000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Sun, 5 Mar 2000 19:35:26 -0800 (PST) gagananand Nathan <charyanand msr tanmatra <i deleted the message addressed to me: Ravi> This is with reference to tanmatra.What i understand is this. It is that amount of force or impulse that creates an energy to grab the mind to the senses (as mentioned earlierby one of our member)and vice- versa it is measurable. that measurement unit varies in the nature of individuals depending upon their past karma and the present quantum of the WILL of the individual soul. By repeated prayers,japa, puja, self discipline and love towards all beings,guru krupa and earnestness,the WILL is induced and magnetised or say energised to such an extent that it destroys or burns the past karma i.e.not exactly karma but the sufferings or enjoyment of the senses as a result of karma.i.e. to say absorbs the impact such as Mother Earth absorbs all electrical shocks . the WILL is developed to such an extent of strength that is almost equal to DIVINE. charyanand (Krishnamoorthy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2000 Report Share Posted March 6, 2000 Thank you all for discussing this term. There is a good discussion on this term in vyAsa bhaashhya of pata~njali's yoga suutra-s. namaH shivaayai cha namaH shivaaya Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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