Guest guest Posted June 7, 2001 Report Share Posted June 7, 2001 namaste Ravi wrote: >- In nut shell SHE is called shivaa because SHE is non-different from >Lord shiva. There is a mention of 5 types of similarities between Shiva and Devi. Similarity of name ,form and 3 other things . can somebody explain this in detail? There is an explantion that Shiva is "one who gives sukham(parama ananda sukham)-represented by "sh" and amritatva(immortality) - represented by "va. may be shivaa can also be interpreted in the same way. regards And it is supported by quotes from liN^ga puraaNa. > >... shiva abhedaa vaa shivaa | tat.h abhedhasya pravR^itti nivR^ittitaa >cha linga puraaNe darshitaa | "yathaa shivastathaa devii yathaa devii >tathaa shivaH | tasmaadabhedabuddhyaiva shiveti kathayantyumaam.h" iti >| tatraiva sthalaantare | "umaasha.nkarayorbhedo nastyeva >paramaarthataH | dvidhaasau ruupamaasthaaya sthitaH eko na saMshayaH" >iti | paramaatma shivaH proktaH shivaa saiva prakiirtiite iti | ... > >===== >ambaaL daasan > >Ravi > >sharaNAgata raxakI nivEyani sadA ninnu nammiti mInAxI > >http://www.ambaa.org/ http://www.advaita-vedanta.org > > > >Get personalized email addresses from Mail - only $35 >a year! http://personal.mail./ > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" wrote: > Why do we call HER shivaa? Commentary for this naama runs long in > saubhaagyabhaaskara. I am planning to go over it slowly and one by one > on the meanings. > > - In nut shell SHE is called shivaa because SHE is non-different from > Lord shiva. And it is supported by quotes from liN^ga puraaNa. > > ... shiva abhedaa vaa shivaa | tat.h abhedhasya pravR^itti nivR^ittitaa > cha linga puraaNe darshitaa | "yathaa shivastathaa devii yathaa devii > tathaa shivaH | tasmaadabhedabuddhyaiva shiveti kathayantyumaam.h" iti > | tatraiva sthalaantare | "umaasha.nkarayorbhedo nastyeva > paramaarthataH | dvidhaasau ruupamaasthaaya sthitaH eko na saMshayaH" > iti | paramaatma shivaH proktaH shivaa saiva prakiirtiite iti | ... > shiva abhedaa vaa shivaa shivaa is non-different from shiva. tat.h abhedhasya pravR^itti nivR^ittitaa cha liN^ga puraaNe darshitaa Both extrinsic and intrinsic aspects of that non-difference is described (seen) in liN^ga puraaNam. "yathaa shivaH tathaa devii yathaa devii tathaa shivaH "as shiva is so is devii, and as devii is so is shiva" tasmaat abhedha buddhi eva shiveti kathayantu umaam" Because of this notion of non-difference umaa is called shivaa. (this quote is from liN^ga puraaNa) tatra eva sthala antare In the same text elsewhere (in some other section) "uma-shankarayoH bheda naasti eva paramaarthataH Ultimately (at supreme level) there is no difference between umaa and shankara, paramaatma shivaH proktaH shivaa sa eva prakiirtite" iti the same paramaatma is spoken as shiva and is also celebrated as shivaa" By the first quote the external aspect of the identity is established (indicated by pravR^itti or flowing outward, root of vRtti is indeed the basis for english word vortex, classically pravRtti and nivRtti is used in a different sense in terms of activity and its renunciation), and second quote establishes the idenity at the highest and internal aspect. It is same stuff which is the basis of all "paramaatma" is called shiva and it is also called shakti, hence ambaaL is called shivaa. The first quote is quite cryptic, it can be interpreted in many ways. Truly when shiva is seen as linga the base indeed is yoni representing shakti and when ambaaL is worshipped in shrIchakra as trishatii uttara piiThika says its is nothing but shiva-shakti-aikyam. They are externally same as ardhanAriishvara and internally same as the supreme brahman called by different names. -- As always, my ignorance is well known, and your corrections and comments will be gratefully accepted (I should create web page with a detailed disclaimer so that I don't have to type it again and again). Even though I thought about this sometime back, I gave myself only 15 minutes to type it, you can then imagine the level of errors. -- Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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