Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Dear devotees of the devine mother, I like to know the meaning of haraharikuchabhoga name of Her that comes in Lalita trishati. And in phalsruti of the same, Lord Hayagriva tells one should know that the words beginning Shiva aksharas are told by Devi. words beginning with devyaksharas by Shiva. words with ubhaya aksharas by ubhayau/both. (because of antarmukha samArAdhya) If I look inwardly as Shiva as static consciousness -jIva/purusha and Devi as maya/ Body /prakriti. What is the meaning&significance of prakriti telling words starting with ha and ka, jIva telling remaining words.And both united telling words starting with hrIm.? And why one should know this fact inorder to get get phala of trishati sthotra? Om Iym hrIm ShrIm Kamakshyai Namaha. Prasada Reddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 , "Prasada Reddy" <prasad@i...> wrote: > Dear devotees of the devine mother, > > I like to know the meaning of haraharikuchabhoga name of Her that > comes in Lalita trishati. shankara gives two interpretations of this nama in the trishati bhaashhyam. Probably one could come up with a third one, consistent with vedAnta. I would like to know what you think of this name before I post shankara's commentary. > And in phalsruti of the same, > Lord Hayagriva tells one should know that > the words beginning Shiva aksharas are told by Devi. > words beginning with devyaksharas by Shiva. > words with ubhaya aksharas by ubhayau/both. > > (because of antarmukha samArAdhya) > If I look inwardly as Shiva as static consciousness -jIva/purusha > and Devi as maya/ Body /prakriti. > > What is the meaning&significance of prakriti telling words starting > with ha and ka, jIva telling remaining words.And both united telling > words starting with hrIm.? > > I do not want to get into the 2nd part. Besides you have mixed up (I will verify tonite) shivAxara-s and shakti-axaras. If my memory is correct, 2 ha-s (ha dvayam), 3 ka-s (ka trayam) are shivaaxaras, the three hrim-s are ubhayaaxaras, remaining are shaktyaxara-s ( 3 la-s, 2 sa-s, e, ii). But I would like to note that (also in the context of the other thread) purushha and prakR^iti is basically a saankhya terminology. Mixing and matching that with vedAnta's brahman, mAyA and avidya is source of confusion. Many of the words jIva, purushha, mAyA, prakR^iti are very technical. Since I am learning them, I would not dwelve deep into that matter. The way these terms are interpreted varies according to the sampradAya one comes from. Also one should note that according advaita-vedAnta, brahman is both the efficient (nimitta) and material (upadAna) cause of the universe (see the commentary of iixaNasR^ishhTaaNDakoTii). This is not the same in saankhya were (numerous, not just one) purushha-s and prakrRti-s are distinct and independent realites which coexists eternally. svAmi hariharAnanda AraNya's translation of vyAsa bhAshya of yoga sutra-s clearly states what a saankhya universe is. Also ambaaL as described in trishati and sahasranAma should be thought of only in the context of saguNa/nirguNa brahman. Same is true with respect to shiva. Refer to the kalyaaNi commentary I posted with the original text. It talks about brahman with mAyA and avidya as upAdhi. And ambaaL is equated to the nirguNa and saguNa brahman. My 2c. Ravi AUM shivaabhyaannamaH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 , "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <miinalochanii> wrote: > , "Prasada Reddy" <prasad@i...> wrote: > > > And in phalsruti of the same, > > Lord Hayagriva tells one should know that > > the words beginning Shiva aksharas are told by Devi. > > words beginning with devyaksharas by Shiva. > > words with ubhaya aksharas by ubhayau/both. > > > > I do not want to get into the 2nd part. Besides you have mixed up (I > will verify tonite) shivAxara-s and shakti-axaras. If my memory is > correct, 2 ha-s (ha dvayam), 3 ka-s (ka trayam) are shivaaxaras, the > three hrim-s are ubhayaaxaras, remaining are shaktyaxara-s ( 3 la- s, > 2 sa-s, e, ii). > > Prasad, I apologize for not reading your mail carefully. You are correct and you did not mix up shivAxara-s and shaktyaxara-s. I mis-read your mail. What I stated above is correct and what you have stated is also correct. To summarize shivaxara-s are ka & ha, and names in trishati with these axara-s are by ambaaL and so on. As mentioned in the uttara piiThikaa, shiva varNaani naamaani shriidevii kathitaani vai shaktyaxaraNi naamaani kameshakathitaani hi ubhayAxaranaamaani hyubhaabhyaam kathitaani vai and later katrayam hadvayam chaiva shaivo bhaagaH prakiirtitaH shaktyaxaraaNi sheshhaani hrii.nkaara ubhyaatamakaH I again apologize for mis-reading you. Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Ravi, I searched thru messages in our group, for all trishati meanings. I was unable to find meanings for some words in Shakti Kuta. Anyway, After the meaning you gave me for this word, I understood this much. I wish I had better Sanskrit knowledge to write perfect Anustup for her.My sanskrit knowledge is not better than 'butler' level. But here is my rude version of Anustup, must be with lot of errors, please correct this - anyone who knows Sanskrit more.Thanks. shivA shivasya shiveti, keshavasya tu vaishnavI 'shaivaishNavyau' mAtArUpaM, JnAnaM dadati dwau kuchau. As She(Shivaa) is essence(shivam) of Shiva/Hara, and for Vishnu/Hari too, she is Vaishnavi. So for Shaiva(Haara)s and Vaishnava(Haari)s , She gives knowledge(and other delightments sought of?) thru her both breasts in mother form. This is what I understood about hArihArikuchAbhOga. Pranamams. Om ShriMathre Namaha Prasada Reddy. , "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <miinalochanii> wrote: > , "Prasada Reddy" <prasad@i...> wrote: > > Dear devotees of the devine mother, > > > > I like to know the meaning of haraharikuchabhoga name of Her that > > comes in Lalita trishati. > > shankara gives two interpretations of this nama in the trishati > bhaashhyam. Probably one could come up with a third one, consistent > with vedAnta. I would like to know what you think of this name > before I post shankara's commentary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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