on Shiva Incarnations --- Guru

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Dear Subramaniam

 

Yes, all ARE Lord Shiva. Yes, all is Vishnu mayam. Yes, everything is God.

 

However, we havent realised this truth . Therefore i was talking more

about the oneness of the REALISED SOUL and God, ( Guru and God) rather than

the underlying unity of all beings.

 

bala

 

 

 

>"Subramaniam Sankaran" <subbu0306

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> on Shiva Incarnations --- Guru

>18 Dec 2001 10:12:29 -0000

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>Please do not mistake me for what I am going to say.

>If this is the case than all the jeevatmaa's are Lord shiva. "Ekaha Rudro

>sarva Bhoteshu..".note also "Sarvam Vishnu mayam Jagat".

>Subramaniam Sankaran

>

>On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 Balakrishnan Shankar wrote :

> >

> > Namah Shivaya ,

> >

> > In the context of Lord Shiva's incarnations and the

> > Guru/God dialog, i

> > would like to add my 2c worth..

> >

> > Ambaa is 'Guru mandala rupini'. Every True Guru, is

> > Her manifestation. As

> > Lord Krishna says in the Gita, wherever one sees

> > Greatness one should know

> > it's a ray of the Lord acting .

> >

> > Also the term' brahmavid Brahmaiva bhavati'- the True

> > knower of Brahman

> > becomes Brahman. She is The Source of all Light and She

> > manifests as the

> > Guru.

> >

> > In this context, provided the Guru is a Self Realized

> > Mahatma, the Guru can

> > and should be considered a manifestation of God.

> >

> > And therefore it will not be wrong to consider Sri

> > Shankara, or other

> > Mahatmas as manifestations of the Lord.

> >

> > Vishnu , Shiva are all forms of the One Supreme. It is

> > our minds that draw

> > these walls between the forms of The One and say 'this

> > is an incarnation of

> > Vishnu not Shiva etc'- for where Vishnu is Shiva is,

> > and vice versa. Sri

> > Krishna says 'I am the Atman in all beings, I am Vishnu,

> > I am Shiva'....

> >

> > When the Supreme Shakti creates it is called Brahma,

> > when it sustains, it is

> > Govinda, when it destroys it is Rudra, when it veils it

> > is Ishwara and when

> > it reveals , it is SadaShiva- refer the sahasranama

> > 'Shristhikarthri Brahma

> > Rupa Goptri Govinda Rupini Samhaarini Rudra rupa...'.

> >

> > Jai Ma.

> >

> > bala

> >

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