Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 Dear Vela, I have some opinions that I would like to share with you. This may not be a perfect answer to your query ..The question raisd by you is something many of us at some time or the other ponder in our lives --> " Why do we have to go thru pain and anxiety when we are performing pooja and being devotional in our approach everyday? " There are several kinds of answers that we hear. Here is my view. The Mother, the Creator and protector is a source of immense love and divinity. SHE knows no pain and hence cannot give the same. Every soul is said to assume a form (which is the physical form we have.It can be human,animal or any living form). The soul desires to experience some Experiences for itself and hence obtains a form for Its manifestation. During this manifestation, the soul goes thru the physical world aspects such as relationships, emotions, dis-ease of mind and physical body etc. These are all in some way or the other not a choice that we make. They are meant to be that way because that is what the soul choses to go thru. These are Expriences which This Soul desires to experience. The knowledge of this fact will help us to visualise ourselves as beyond the physical form and think in the frequency of the cosmic world. Our mantras,slokas and any other form of prayers are all aiding the mind to see beyond - towards the supreme Mother. Hence, even though we perform poojas or offer evryday prayers, what is important is how we apply our mind to it rather than the actual ritual. I am NOT saying that we must not adhere to rituals. The knowledge that, what we are trying to achieve by our humble prayers is a salvation for this soul from this current manifestation to once again reach back to the MOther, will not allow us to be carried away or get disappointed by the mundane occurences in daily life.Remember, the soul has chosen this manifestation and hence will go thru it ...be it pain or happiness. SHE is love and SHE is light. She will hear the call of any child of hers. Please keep praying to her as you always do and you will find more happiness. I hope that my reply gives you some answer to your query. If I am wrong then I humbly request to be corrected. bala shrarnam Lalitha Ramani. --- kodees <kodees wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I happened to listen the 'Lalitha sahasranamam' by > Bombay Sisters 8 > years ago. Without knowing any significance about > its recital, I > started to learn it and recite for atleast 5 days a > week initially. > > Later I came to know that, reciting it everyday, we > get all blessings > from the mother. After that, for the past three > years, I have made it > a compulsory practise that, every day immediately > after my shower I > light the lamp, and recite the sahasranamam, with > some fruit or > payasam as offering. > > But unfortunately, I started to face so many > problems for the past > two years, and my life is so miserable now. But till > today I strongly > belive, the Mother won't let me down, and I continue > the recital. > > Is it true that, she gives all kinds of sufferings > to her devotees to > test their courage, before blessing them? Or Is > there any formality, > that I'm not doing, while reciting the sahasranama? > > - Vela > > > > > > > > > > > Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Dear vela, It would also be nice if you can confirm the chanting from an Adhyapak (or Guru). For the following reasons 1. even though Lalitha sahasranamam is from a puranam and does not have a prescribed chanting (like the vedas), there places were it is easy to make mistakes. 2. Knowledge of the meaning of each name will give benifit and pleasure. 3. Lalitha sahasranamam is not like other sahasranamam's almost every name (and the joining of names) has deeper meanings as the learned Upasakas in this mailing list will confirm. But if learnt from a guru, chanted with bhakti in clean sourroundings at the prescribed time has no equal. Trials and tribulations are always a part of life, even Shri Rama had to face 14 years of hardship! Knowledge and belief of God is the anchor which will hold us steady through them. Please do not lose faith in the Holy Mother. in times of difficulties our faith sould increase... please forgive me for my email (this is the biggest from me yet)if what I write sounds like platitudes Vishy --- Lalitha Ramani <varamala wrote: > Dear Vela, > > I have some opinions that I would like to share with > you. This may not be a perfect answer to your query > .The question raisd by you is something many of us > at > some time or the other ponder in our lives --> > " Why do we have to go thru pain and anxiety when we > are performing pooja and being devotional in our > approach everyday? " > > There are several kinds of answers that we hear. > Here > is my view. > > The Mother, the Creator and protector is a source of > immense love and divinity. SHE knows no pain and > hence > cannot give the same. > Every soul is said to assume a form (which is the > physical form we have.It can be human,animal or any > living form). The soul desires to experience some > Experiences for itself and hence obtains a form for > Its manifestation. During this manifestation, the > soul > goes thru the physical world aspects such as > relationships, emotions, dis-ease of mind and > physical > body etc. These are all in some way or the other not > a > choice that we make. They are meant to be that way > because that is what the soul choses to go thru. > These > are Expriences which This Soul desires to > experience. > > The knowledge of this fact will help us to visualise > ourselves as beyond the physical form and think in > the > frequency of the cosmic world. Our mantras,slokas > and > any other form of prayers are all aiding the mind to > see beyond - towards the supreme Mother. > Hence, even though we perform poojas or offer > evryday > prayers, what is important is how we apply our mind > to > it rather than the actual ritual. I am NOT saying > that > we must not adhere to rituals. > The knowledge that, what we are trying to achieve by > our humble prayers is a salvation for this soul from > this current manifestation to once again reach back > to > the MOther, will not allow us to be carried away or > get disappointed by the mundane occurences in daily > life.Remember, the soul has chosen this > manifestation > and hence will go thru it ...be it pain or > happiness. > > SHE is love and SHE is light. She will hear the call > of any child of hers. Please keep praying to her as > you always do and you will find more happiness. > > I hope that my reply gives you some answer to your > query. If I am wrong then I humbly request to be > corrected. > > bala shrarnam > Lalitha Ramani. > > --- kodees <kodees wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I happened to listen the 'Lalitha sahasranamam' by > > Bombay Sisters 8 > > years ago. Without knowing any significance about > > its recital, I > > started to learn it and recite for atleast 5 days > a > > week initially. > > > > Later I came to know that, reciting it everyday, > we > > get all blessings > > from the mother. After that, for the past three > > years, I have made it > > a compulsory practise that, every day immediately > > after my shower I > > light the lamp, and recite the sahasranamam, with > > some fruit or > > payasam as offering. > > > > But unfortunately, I started to face so many > > problems for the past > > two years, and my life is so miserable now. But > till > > today I strongly > > belive, the Mother won't let me down, and I > continue > > the recital. > > > > Is it true that, she gives all kinds of sufferings > > to her devotees to > > test their courage, before blessing them? Or Is > > there any formality, > > that I'm not doing, while reciting the > sahasranama? > > > > - Vela > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health. > > Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Jai Maa! There seems to be some disagreement about the necessity of initiation into Srii vidyaa as a prerequisitite for chanting lalitaa sahasranaama. With utmost respect to my fellow list members, my guru recommends chanting of lalitaa sahasranaama to all devotees. Even if we make mistakes in pronunciation in the beginning, our Divine Mother knows that we are calling Her. As we study and chant further, these mispronunciations will get corrected over time. I might add that I recognize that there are many texts the chanting of which is completely inappropriate without the guidance of a guru. I just do not feel that LS is such a text. The story of how our fellow list member began chanting LS made me think that her taking this practice was at the grace of Mother. And if our Mother is everything, then all events, whether we experience them as positive or negative, are Her prasad. It is my sincere hope to realize this fact someday and not to just mouth these words. I pray I have not offended anyone on this list by my difference of opinion. Jai Maa!!! Aravind Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 Dear Devotee,, I went through the same doubt regarding LS chanting. There may be different schools of thought and I am sure people in this group may / may not agree with what I say. I still would like to share my experience on this topic. - First of all you need to have 'ambaal's' grace to even chant the LS. - I have also learnt the LS by listening only. There are several musicians who have rendered this. I learnt it by listening to the rendering by Siavananda Vijayalakshmi's gramophone record back in those days. You also have this sung by Bombay sisters, MS Sheela, Sudha and quite a few. - I chant this at home ( I shouldn't even be saying this, because it's all because of mother's will). - The LS is a part of the second canto of Brahmanda Purana. Hayagriva tells the sage Agastya that only devotees of abiding faith should be initiated into this hymn. It should not be revealed to anyone who lacks devotion. Hayagriva also points out that the LS is very potent. - I have quite a few say to me that LS this should be initiated by a guru while the others don't quite agree. - Several years ago I happened to raise the same question with Sri Jayendra Saraswati, present Acharya of Kanchi Mutt. I took a LS book with me published by RK Mutt to seek his blessings and told HH that I have been reciting this. He said to me in Tamil - Nanna Sollu. - I also talked to Amma (Amritanandamayi) and she has encouraged daily chanting too. I have not had any formal initiation. Again there may be experts who tend to disagree with this. The LS is indispenable for those who do sri chakra puja and chant the Panchadasakshari (Srividya) , however LS can be chanted by itself Now coming to your sufferring part, Even though human life is full of sorrow,man's real nature is one of bliss. The mother of the universe who is full of love for those who take refuge in Her will never forsake anyone coming to her with unwavering devotion. There could be several reasons for man's pain or joy- Most poular being the Karmic theory. By constantly meditating on the the divine form and name, you get the strength to face the problems and treat pain and joy with equanimity. One who knows the essential truth recognizes this and accepts pain and joy with evenness of mind. But this is not easy for an ordinary person or even for a spiritual seeker. As was posted earlier by a devotee, even some of the greatest souls have been through pain and suffering. They have also been put to test several times in their life. Look at Abirami Battar, or Narayana Battadri who wrote the famous Narayaneeyam, Arunagirinathar etc. One common pricinple is their unwavering faith and devotion that has really made them great. In summary, you can seek guidance from a Guru, but personally I would continue to chant the LS , it is HER name and you are singing her glory. Never start doubting when you are in suffering. The intensity should increase then. Do it with sincere devotion with love towards HER. By worshipping the divine mother with an atitiude of loving devotion you will start acdepting joy and sorrow as the will of God Love ------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 In fact the methodology in lalitha sahasranama mentions that the rishis of the sthotra - The Vag Devathas like Vashini will curse any non sri vidya upaasaka reciting lalitha sahasranama. in Kerala till about 30-40 years ago the Nampoothiri brahmins never used to recite it. Then there came a lot of saints like mathaa Amruthaananda mayi advocating and propagating lalita sahasranama. Maybe the age has changed and the bar is no longer there. I dunno. Further it is said "Shive rushta Gurusthraathaa Gororushta na kinchana" If Shiva gets angry at you , your guru shall protect you. If Guru gets angry none can save you. So follow guroopadesha at all times, whatever the shastra says. Menon --- Jami Blakeley <jami108 wrote: > Jai Maa! > There seems to be some disagreement about the > necessity of initiation into Srii vidyaa as a > prerequisitite for chanting lalitaa sahasranaama. > With utmost respect to my fellow list members, my > guru > recommends chanting of lalitaa sahasranaama to all > devotees. Even if we make mistakes in pronunciation > in the beginning, our Divine Mother knows that we > are > calling Her. As we study and chant further, these > mispronunciations will get corrected over time. > > I might add that I recognize that there are many > texts > the chanting of which is completely inappropriate > without the guidance of a guru. I just do not feel > that LS is such a text. > > The story of how our fellow list member began > chanting > LS made me think that her taking this practice was > at > the grace of Mother. And if our Mother is > everything, > then all events, whether we experience them as > positive or negative, are Her prasad. It is my > sincere hope to realize this fact someday and not to > just mouth these words. > > I pray I have not offended anyone on this list by my > difference of opinion. > > Jai Maa!!! > Aravind > > > > Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health. > Mother's Day is May 12th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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