Guest guest Posted May 30, 2002 Report Share Posted May 30, 2002 Namaskaram Sri Sankar, 1. Indication of Sri Swarnaakarshana Bhairavar at Sri Nataraja sannadhi is for those members of our group who do not know about it and who could benefit from the info. 2. During big havans, it is quite possible that some of the ritviks (who is part of the performers) would not have initiated into a particular mantra. For any mantras like mritynjayam, sri sooktam, durga sooktam, etc, for persons who have underdone vedic study, initiation is not necessary. In the case of Chandi, Navakshari is a must which is normally initiated to them just before the start of the yajna, not individually, but collectively. It is a practice in so called orthodox vaideekam also. 3. Orthodox is a bad word, now-a-days, just as profit is so for communists. Without profit, there is no growth, w/out capital creation, no prosperity to people. Religion is related to mind which has to be purified step-by-step viz pooja, japa, dyana, etc. Orthodoxy is a caution to tread the proper way for all to reach stage of oneness - no discrimination. Tantras speak of extreme caution to follow Vaamacharam (another equal way of mother worship). Method of worship, mantras, way of doing havans, all brought down to us thru years from our forefathers - rishis. They discussed, decided and obtained results of highest order. It is only easy to go on a majestic path laid before, instead of re-inventing the wheel. 4. In grahyasutram, we follow one agni, and in srouta sutram, we follow 3 agnis namely garhapatyam (worship as grahasta), aahavaneeyam (devatas), dakshinagni (pitrus). It is stricly followed, no change is thought of, and obtain good results and happiness which is all intended for. In the names of orthodoxy, yajnas have gone background, but everyday, lakhs of animals are slaughtered, to enjoy happiness in food and feast. Those days, kings patronised yajnas and obtained rains three times a month. Now, all are rajahs, but do not worry of public care and happiness, but aggrandise selfishly through killing animals and birds, and lavish spending. 5. On the same point (may be a side story), Sivacharyars basically follow Yajur Veda (Bodaayana sutra) for their house-hold poojas, vivaaham, anything. For havans at temples, they create Sivagni as per Aagama injunctions (here too Aagamaas say, Bodayanagni for Kumbabhishekam, yaga sala etc). But, now-d-days, they conveniently follow Sivagni for house-hold karmas also. So what? is a question? Bodaayana uses a lot of mantras (vedic prayers) in agni pratishtapanam, where Sivagni is ritual without mantras which is okay in a temple where devata saanidyam is omni-present. For house-hold which we do on and off, we need more mantras to obtain presence of God. Subtle point here is that Sivacharyars tend to lose the benefit of mantra-gnana thereby. I have been telling these to many Sivacharyar forums, but they agree, not to put forth. In Agama patasalas, teaching of veda is ignored is one point to note. In olden days, every temple used to have one Adyayana Bhattar who will recite Rudram, Chamakam, sooktas during abishekams, and vedas during yaga salai pooja daily. They used to tutor Sivacharyars also in Vedas. That practice is no more available - a disadvantage to Sivacharyas. (Chettiyar managed temples, they made it mandatory to have one Adyaana Bhattar and one Veda Patasaala). 6. One interesting episode on 'orthodoxy', as told my father. Thiruvarur is famous for Sri Thyagaraja temple, so famous are Nattukkottai Chettiars for strict management of temples especially Yaga Sala and Kumbabhishekam. If we still have something left, we must heartily thank that community. Though Thiruvarur temple was under heriditory control of Sri Somasundara Mudaliar and guidance from HR&CE Dept, one Karaikudi Chettiyar was put in charge of Kumbhabhishekam. Some 65 years back, all the Sivacharyars were highly learned. Top people from Palani, Darmapuram, etc were present to be Acharyars of main vedikas (moortis). Our Chettiyar asked the group of Sivacharyars (big shots) as to what Agni they are to establish the Yaga Kunda in, on the first day. One person like me (reactive type)said, Sivaagni which others also tended to maintain. Chettiyar said, it should be Bodaayanagni as per sastras, but gave 1/2 hour to discuss and conclude. Sivaacharyars concluded and conducted the rituals with Bodaayanagni is a history. Point is that the Chettiyar is learned (number one), and he was very strict in doing proper way to obtain maximum benefit to the people (number two). 7. Our group is concerned more about self-upaasana rather than worship at temple. In some places, baktas doing the havans is permitted. Sanctity present at these kshetras will take care of any deficiencies. But, for doing at home, we should be clear about the way and do it with proper guidance, is the point. 8. No tradition is bad, nor discriminate, but only spot lights good results. In this group itself, I saw the mail yesterday about Dakshina Kalika. What a lovely interpretation about her moorti. I enjoyed Her vibhuti. 9. Let us continue our learnings through this medium. Thank you. L Vaidyanathan Puliyur ______________________ Everything you always wanted to know about cars and bikes,now at: http://in.autos./cricket/tracker.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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