Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 Namaskarams, I was given to believe that any shadhana which require Nyasas, require upadesha. This seems to be a good rule of thumb. Regarding LS there are quite a few who believe that, it is ok to chant it as a parayanam as in this case the LS is a descriptive praise of the Mother. Regarding Trishathi, I believe one should not chant it with or without Upadesha unless there is a total devotion (this is my personal belief and I follow it). After all there are equally beautiful compositions to express one's devotion to the Mother. Chanting LS, LT etc are a completely voluntary activity, hence one should take this up after a delebrate study, there is no umbrella of protection for such an action. The benifits are great but so are the risks. Please pose the query to Kanchi/Sringeri Sankaracharyas. Regards Vishy --- satisharigela <satisharigela wrote: > shrIH > Namaste, > , "kalyanbadhukripa" > <kalyanbadhukripa> wrote: > > Is it proper to chant lalita trishadi,lalita > > sahasranamam ,mookaambika sahasranamam and > soundarya lahiri from > the > > books because the place where i reside it is > difficult to find > > somebody to teach and be a guru. > > > Lalita Sahasranama and Lalita Trishati require > initiation for > recital. > > Other than these almost any other Devi sahasranama > can be read > without any mantropadesha. A few sahasranamas may > have special > requirements to be met for reciting it. These > requiremens will > generally be given either in the prologue or > epilogue of that > particular sahasranama. > > regards > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 It is possible that Devi will herself iniate one into her forms of worship. Ask her for her permission. She is after all everything. - satisharigela Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:15 AM Re: chanting of stotras shrIH Namaste, , "kalyanbadhukripa" <kalyanbadhukripa> wrote: > Is it proper to chant lalita trishadi,lalita > sahasranamam ,mookaambika sahasranamam and soundarya lahiri from the > books because the place where i reside it is difficult to find > somebody to teach and be a guru. Lalita Sahasranama and Lalita Trishati require initiation for recital. Other than these almost any other Devi sahasranama can be read without any mantropadesha. A few sahasranamas may have special requirements to be met for reciting it. These requiremens will generally be given either in the prologue or epilogue of that particular sahasranama. regards Sponsor AUM shrImAtre namaH AUM namaH shivAya AUM namaH shivAbhyAm Archives : http://www.ambaa.org/ (Edited) : /messages// Contact : help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 I never knew that the mantras of lalita amba and tripuri are just as volatile as kalika mantras. I always believed that like the worship of maha lakshmi gives wealth, wisdom, the worship of maha saraswati gives intellegance and articulacy so does the kalika worship give the destruction of enemies and siddhis. I always thought that mother lalita was more of a 'non volatile goddess' that she some not like the extreme personalities of the devi.This brings me to one question there the goddesses that accept certain things and dont like certain offerings like for the goddess santoshi there should only be an offering of sweet foods, is there a similar implication with mother lalita? I have never heard or seen any offer her the kaulic offerings like alcohol, blood... even maha saraswati and lakshmi are given these offerings and these acts are emminent in their siddhi worship. I was wondering if this is the same with the mother lalita amba. I know that there bali devatas that are wroshiped in her tantra like mother varahi and mother jvalamukhi, but directly to her? does she accept these offerings? One more question; the sri chakra can be used in the worship of kali hence the kalika kadgamala stotram and also lakhsmi and I have reason to believe saraswati but why is mother tripura sundari/rajarajeshwari or lalita ambaa the most common selections. Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 Mother Lalita and Mother Kali are verily one and the same. If you like, she is Mother Lalita during the waxing moon, and Mother Kali during the waning moon. Nevertheless, She is still the moon. If you like, They are the two sides of a coin, but if you say, "She is one side of the coin," then you miss the worth of the coin. If you like, she is like your Mother, at one point beautiful, loving, and caring when she is pleased, and terrible, ugly, and punishing when she is displeased, yet she is still your Mother, and she loves you no matter what. Do not call Her this or that. She is beyond any kind of description as her names from the Lalita Trishati show: "etattadityanirdeshyaa" -- She who cannot be defined as this or that, or "evamityaagamaabodhyaa" -- She who cannot be described. Truly, You are the same as Her; do not call yourself a Kaula or a Sri Vidya Practitioner, Saivite or Sakta, man or woman. Like her, you are beyond all these labels and concepts. God/dess is One, and only sees love and devotion, not all the various items you offer. Do you really think She cares if it's blood or a flower you are offering? Does the Mother scold her child if he offers her a scoop of dirt that he found in the backyard? She will see through the dirt to the reality which is, "Here is my child who is trying to show me that he truly loves me," and probably, this Mother may be so touched that she takes the scoop of dirt and keeps it in a jar for the rest of her life, cherishing it as a gift of love. You can offer a leaf or a rock as long as you do it with love and sincerity. Remember also that the Mother see through the gift if it has some ulterior motive -- "My child is giving me this dirt because he wants some ice cream." The gift loses its meaning and charm and more than likely the dirt gets thrown back. Just love Her and She will give everything unto You. --- Kalika Putra <dakinic_monk wrote: > > I never knew that the mantras of lalita amba and > tripuri are just as volatile as kalika mantras. I > always believed that like the worship of maha > lakshmi gives wealth, wisdom, the worship of maha > saraswati gives intellegance and articulacy so does > the kalika worship give the destruction of enemies > and siddhis. > > I always thought that mother lalita was more of a > 'non volatile goddess' that she some not like the > extreme personalities of the devi.This brings me to > one question there the goddesses that accept certain > things and dont like certain offerings like for the > goddess santoshi there should only be an offering of > sweet foods, is there a similar implication with > mother lalita? I have never heard or seen any offer > her the kaulic offerings like alcohol, blood... even > maha saraswati and lakshmi are given these offerings > and these acts are emminent in their siddhi worship. > I was wondering if this is the same with the mother > lalita amba. I know that there bali devatas that are > wroshiped in her tantra like mother varahi and > mother jvalamukhi, but directly to her? does she > accept these offerings? > > One more question; the sri chakra can be used in the > worship of kali hence the kalika kadgamala stotram > and also lakhsmi and I have reason to believe > saraswati but why is mother tripura > sundari/rajarajeshwari or lalita ambaa the most > common selections. > > > > > Digital How To- Get the best out of your PC! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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