Guest guest Posted September 1, 2002 Report Share Posted September 1, 2002 is it ok to label goddess mother as having this guna or that? after all, mother goddess is beyond all gunas- she is NIRGUNA! also, one action of the mother goddess may look 'rajasic' but it matuy have 'sattwic' implications ... for example, when Mother durga slayed 'mahisasura' it looked like she was engazed in 'rajasic' action but the consequences were 'sattwic' for the rest of mankind... also, what does 'mahisasur' represent? was he a DEMON? or rhe demon like qualities in a man/woman? everytime, the mother goddess destroys our ego, lust, arrogance, pride, anger, etc -she is taking us one step towards enlightenment... folks, all these thoughts were triggered by a post by our beloved devi_bhakta, owner of group who has posted a message by labelling the different goddesses with gunas!! for example, lakshmi is supposed to have 'rajas' guna - kali has 'tamas' etc... i think godesses are beyond 'gunas' they are 'gunateetha' - their actions may seem like having gunas but they themselves are beyond gunas? can any enlightened member throw light on this interesting topic!! please respond... om shree nirgunayai namaha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 , "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > is it ok to label goddess mother as having this guna or that? after > all, mother goddess is beyond all gunas- she is NIRGUNA! The Supreme Mother, Parashakti, Mahadevi is indeed beyond all gunas, beyond creation, beyond time, beyond anything that is conceivable. Her "created" goddesses (Kali, Tara, Shodashi, etc.), are within space and time, and therefore must have gunas. If you can imagine a goddess, and give her attributes then she is "created." At their core (like you and me), these devis are also nirguna. The difference is that they have realized this fact and most of us have not. > also, one action of the mother goddess may look 'rajasic' but it > matuy have 'sattwic' implications ... for example, when Mother durga > slayed 'mahisasura' it looked like she was engazed in 'rajasic' > action but the consequences were 'sattwic' for the rest of mankind... The first creation out of oneness (Shiva/Shakti, represented by the bindu in the Shri Chakra), results in the three gunas, represented by the triangle surrounding the bindu. Each point of the triangle represents a guna, and each is connected to another. This implies that in order to exist, each point of the triangle must have the other two to exist. Further, each point "creates" the other two points because of its relationship with the bindu. In other words, no guna is purely "sattva, raja, or tamas." Each results in the the other two gunas and each is dependent on the bindu. > also, what does 'mahisasur' represent? was he a DEMON? or rhe demon > like qualities in a man/woman? everytime, the mother goddess destroys > our ego, lust, arrogance, pride, anger, etc -she is taking us one > step towards enlightenment... Mahishasura is the demon of the ego, the notion "I Am," the ahamkara. Everything on the physical plane has a counterpart on the inner planes. The collective ego of man is/was represented on the inner plane by Mahishasura, the buffalo demon -- a buffalo because he is/was strong and stubborn just like the ego. Mahishasura also can/could change forms, just like our own ego. I use present and past tense because we on the physical plane are still waiting to receive the full effects of Sri Durga's merciful slaying of the ego demon. Time does not work the same on this plane as it does on the inner planes. It has already been done and we will ALL be free of the ego eventually. > folks, all these thoughts were triggered by a post by our beloved > devi_bhakta, owner of group who has posted a message > by labelling the different goddesses with gunas!! for example, > lakshmi is supposed to have 'rajas' guna - kali has 'tamas' etc... > i think godesses are beyond 'gunas' they are 'gunateetha' - their > actions may seem like having gunas but they themselves are beyond > gunas? In Zen meditation, koans or riddles are given to the student that are designed to short circuit the mind and point the way to Reality. By contemplating how the goddess can have gunas and be beyond them at the same time, you may begin to see that God can never be known by th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Thank you mike, sivadancer and truthseeker for all your wonderful responses. it is very much appreciated. om shree maatrayaii namaha! , "Mike Wisniewski" <tamil@i...> wrote: > I am the least of the members of this group and normally do not comment. > But in your question I see the Meru Sri Chakra with the Bindu being perhaps > the Closest to 'Nirguna' and the other triangles, lotus and squares as being > increasingly toward the gunas. The goal is to merge into the Bindu. She is > at our center, we strive for Her Heart. > > Mike > > - > "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> > > Sunday, September 01, 2002 2:22 PM > a question for all ambaal devotees? > > > > is it ok to label goddess mother as having this guna or that? after > > all, mother goddess is beyond all gunas- she is NIRGUNA! > > > > also, one action of the mother goddess may look 'rajasic' but it > > matuy have 'sattwic' implications ... for example, when Mother durga > > slayed 'mahisasura' it looked like she was engazed in 'rajasic' > > action but the consequences were 'sattwic' for the rest of mankind... > > also, what does 'mahisasur' represent? was he a DEMON? or rhe demon > > like qualities in a man/woman? everytime, the mother goddess destroys > > our ego, lust, arrogance, pride, anger, etc -she is taking us one > > step towards enlightenment... > > > > folks, all these thoughts were triggered by a post by our beloved > > devi_bhakta, owner of group who has posted a message > > by labelling the different goddesses with gunas!! for example, > > lakshmi is supposed to have 'rajas' guna - kali has 'tamas' etc... > > i think godesses are beyond 'gunas' they are 'gunateetha' - their > > actions may seem like having gunas but they themselves are beyond > > gunas? > > > > can any enlightened member throw light on this interesting topic!! > > > > please respond... > > > > om shree nirgunayai namaha!! > > > > > > > > > > AUM shrImAtre namaH > > AUM namaH shivAya > > AUM namaH shivAbhyAm > > > > Archives : http://www.ambaa.org/ (Edited) > > : /messages// > > > > Contact : help@a... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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