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, Rolando Santos <sivadancer> wrote:

> --- vishwanthan Krishnamoorthy <krishvishy>

> wrote:

>

> > I have a counter question what is the potential of a

> > mantra? does it mean the fullfillment of the

> > phalasthuthi?

>

> I suppose Sri Kalika Putra was referring to the

> phalashruti when he wrote that "most mantras of kali

> don't work to their full potential." Personally, I

> believe the phalashruti is only there to goad the

> sadhak into more earnest practice; if there is no

> reward, why should would we do it? Surely it is

> entirely possible to acheive the fruits mentioned in

> the phalashruti, but I think the point is for our

> desires for power to fall away. In the course of

> repeating a mantra so many hundreds of thousands or

> millions of times, the consciousness of the aspirant

> (hopefully) becomes so refined that the desire for the

> siddhis falls away. By the time he achieves the

> siddhis, he no longer desires them anymore, and this

> is the requirement for achieving powers -- as long as

> you desire them, you'll never have them, but when you

> don't desire them, you'll have more power than you've

> ever imagined! Perhaps this is why those with siddhis

> almost never use them.

 

The phala shrutis most of the time, contain "arthavada" or

exaggeration so as to impell the reader towards that particular

sadhana.

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