RE: KADAMBARI PRIYA

[Guest guest]

I do not know Sanskrit. Actually, we are fortunate to have Aarathi here, she

is currently doing her Ph.D. in Sanskrit. She may be able to help.

 

I think, the disappearance of La in modern sanskrit is due to reverse

influence of Hindi (in turn from urdu). Other Indian languages such as

marathi and telugu still use this La a lot. In fact, in telugu they over use

it (for instance, LS kalavaatii rendered by telugu people will be

kaLaavati). If you listen to the LS rendering on devotinalsongs.com, you can

right away say the artiste is a telugu lady (one by La, and other by

interchanging tha and dha)*

 

for L^i there are examples in LS

 

kadamba ma~njarI kL^ipta karNapuura manoharaa

liilaa kL^ipta brahmanda maNDalaa

 

(I could find a lot of word starting with /using kL^ip in MW) When I was

looking at it in MW dictionary I found some entries for R^I in MW such as

atitR^I and also some explanation on where it is used. I could not find any

for L^I except by itself (it does have some meanings).

 

 

Coming back to La. It is legal to change La to Da. Thus, agnimILE will

become, agnimIDE, or aheLamAna will become aheDamAna, etc. Kanchi achArya

discusses this at length in his book on veda-s (or Hindu dharma).

 

I think, L^i, L^I are quite difficult pronounce, both kL^iptas in LS are

real tongue twisters. kyoto translation is more intuitive by writing it lR

and lRR. Often people pronounce it as kLipta.

 

The correct forum for discussing this subject is Sanskrit List. If you go to

sanskrit.gde.to, it will lead you to the list.

 

 

--

Ravi

 

 

 

 

 

Shrinivas A. Gadkari <sgadkari2001

[sgadkari2001]

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:41 PM

Re: KADAMBARI PRIYA

Namaste Ravi,

 

This question is not really connected with this thread.

 

The consonant L appears in the very first mentra of R^ik

veda: agnim ILe purohitam ...., why then is it excluded from

modern sanskrit ?

 

Also I have yet to see any word containing R^I, L^i, and

L^I. Do you know some reference to these sounds.

 

Thanks.

 

Regards

Shrinivas

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Namaste

 

Could the esteemed members give me pointers to find sivapancaratna

stora

 

thanks

Prasanna

[Guest guest]

Just a small correction to this. The vowel L^i does not posses a dIrgha

(L^I). It only has a pluta form in sanskrit. I am not sure about other

languages. There is an extensive discussion in the commentary mahAbhAShya

about the status of the vowel L^i. As it is not appropriate for this forum,

those interested may contact me for further details.

 

Aarathi.

 

> I think, the disappearance of La in modern sanskrit is due to reverse

> influence of Hindi (in turn from urdu). Other Indian languages such as

> marathi and telugu still use this La a lot. In fact, in telugu they over

use

> it (for instance, LS kalavaatii rendered by telugu people will be

> kaLaavati). If you listen to the LS rendering on devotinalsongs.com, you

can

> right away say the artiste is a telugu lady (one by La, and other by

> interchanging tha and dha)*

>

> for L^i there are examples in LS

>

> kadamba ma~njarI kL^ipta karNapuura manoharaa

> liilaa kL^ipta brahmanda maNDalaa

>

> (I could find a lot of word starting with /using kL^ip in MW) When I was

> looking at it in MW dictionary I found some entries for R^I in MW such as

> atitR^I and also some explanation on where it is used. I could not find

any

> for L^I except by itself (it does have some meanings).

>

>

> Coming back to La. It is legal to change La to Da. Thus, agnimILE will

> become, agnimIDE, or aheLamAna will become aheDamAna, etc. Kanchi achArya

> discusses this at length in his book on veda-s (or Hindu dharma).

>

> I think, L^i, L^I are quite difficult pronounce, both kL^iptas in LS are

> real tongue twisters. kyoto translation is more intuitive by writing it lR

> and lRR. Often people pronounce it as kLipta.