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devi saranam, i have seen people puting salt and black pepper[milaku] in devi

temple on the sides of the windows of gopuram [i have seen in magadu kamshi

ammam temple] and gopuram are very old and beautiful structure and salt can

carrode and spoil the stone and thus making the gopuram weak. can we not only

pray to HER rathan than spoiling the gopuram which is the wealth for the future

generations and to repair these gopurams are so costly they will get neglected.

Like the campor lighting is not done now like wise the salt putting also should

be controlled and why salt is put there any reason. for doing it.now to

construct such a gopuram is not possible so at least what ever we have to be

protected.

matave saranam M.S.Iyer

"Ravi <miinalochanii" <miinalochanii wrote:The tradition

of lighting lamps with container made of fruit (pazha

viLakku) and flour (maa viLakku) has been going on for many

generations in Tamil Nadu. I specifically know of this practice in

Vaidheeshvaran Kovil (Thanjavur), which is our family temple. This

my grand mother taught to my mother and in turn my mother shower it

to my wife. Typically, before undertaking any new venture or at some

specific events, they visit the temple and do this. This, to my

knowledgde, has been going on for many generations.

 

I would not say this as littering, even if it is, it is

biodegradable earth friendly stuff. Nothing toxic. We should be

concerned far more about dumping carbon monoxide into the air we

breath and other non-degradeable plastics.

 

In matters such as these, it is better to ask the elders in the

family and do what is in vogue. Other option is to contact their

kula guru or great accharya-s and do what they suggest. Whenever I

wrote to kAnchi maTha asking for clarification on certain things, I

always got a quick and prompt answer.

 

Ravi

 

 

 

, Ganesh Prasad <bjganeshprasad>

wrote:

>

> Hariom,

>

> I have till now not come upon any shastra aadhara or

> pramana for such puja. Infact I have noticed this

> thing to be a growing phenomenon wherein many devotees

> mainly women, light these lemon lamps in temples

> spoiling the flooring and littering the premises

> therein.

 

 

 

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my two paise worth.

Sharanagathis is great and is involved to some extent in every sadhana.

But when you approach the diety through tantra there is an element of Karma that

makes the result inevitable. it is as if the "karma' of doing the puja gives a

certain result - irrespective of planetary positions etc. Of course this means

doing the puja or sadhana as prescribed and with due authority.

"Ravi <miinalochanii" <miinalochanii wrote:--- In

, "satisharigela <satisharigela>"

<satisharigela> wrote:

>

> I feel that it is better to spend time chanting Lalita

Ashtottara

> or Bala Tripura Sundari Ashtottara rather than spending time on

> pujas which have no shastric base.

 

Even this not required or must, as if one does not understand

Sanskrit, he or she will not understand what these names mean; and

teachings that underly behind these names. I agree with you that

starting or undertaking any new puuja (without a shaastri basis) is

of not much use. I would say that even with any kaamya karma

approved by shaastra-s.

 

 

The key is sharaNagati to God and guru. One has to just understand

and realize one's utter dependence on God. Right from the air we

breath, water we drink, food we eat, or anything for that matter, we

are utterly utterly dependent on HER power. I typically try to

remember this whenever I eat something. Now I trying to remember

this even while drinking a cup of water. Finally, it should become

practice when one takes every gasp of air.

 

Understanding this will also lead to (atleast at intelectual level

to start with) understanding of "yastu sarvaaNi bhuutani aatmanii

eva anupashyate ..." and lead to samatva bhava. SHE is indweller of

all and each jiiva goes through this topsy turvy curve of life

according to praarabdha. So there is nothing great about some one or

lowly about another (Words of sangam poet kaniyan puunkuNranaar -

periyorai viyaththalum ilame chiriyorai igazthalum ilame; and

thiithum nanRum piRar thara vaaraa, sumaarizes the above well).

 

One has to do what is obligatoy and otherwise contemplate on God,

one;s dependence on God and the act/consequences of sharaNagati to

God. Personally, I see no better path to God than sharaNagati. In

fact, it is same as nidhidhyAsana of vedAnta maarga.

 

My 2c.

 

Ravi

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ambaal Devotees,

Greetings!

I am adding my 2c if it is worth anything.

 

It is true to say that 'mAnaseeka' love and praying to

Lord/Devi is the ULTIMATE form of devotion. Also, it

is true to say that 'Devine GRACE' exists in our every

day living, breathing and all life activities in this

universe (on earth especially). This also means what

we do to praise the Lord/Devi or show devotion to god

is IMMATERIAL to obtain the GRACE of GOD and/or to

attain 'mOksham' (nirvAnA).

 

However, it is also necessary to understand & work

thru the realities of our living and our human

mind's/brain's/body's limitations on seeking

Lord's/Devi's Love (or praying using 'mAnaseeka'

devotion/praying). The main limitaion of human

mind/brain/body is the 'Distraction' disturbance.

There are several ways of conquering this limitation,

each to his own ability and method of keeping his mind

clear of any distractions. I will keep this discussion

short without prolonging on these various methods,

except write my views.

 

Since many of us, including me, require to 'develop'

and to 'condition' our mind for 'Ultimate mAnaseeka'

paying to Lord/Devi, I feel that the 'recital method'

of LS etc and(/or) 'performance' of 'Pujas' (to the

Lord/Devi) are(/is) necessary for many of us. I do

strongly feel that, in order to recite or do 'Puja' in

some 'religious' format regularly, it is NOT necessary

to 'understand' its inner meaning of the 'Lord/Devi'

praises written in other languages (if any) or for

that matter the 'puja Rithis' instructed by his/her

Guru/priest. What is important is be religous about

doing it regularly at a set time in a day/week to

condition and cleansify our mind for attaining our

Ultimate Goal of 'mAnaseeka' praying without our

mind/body/brain getting disturbed in our disturbance

bound earth on which we live.

 

In essence, in order for us to drive in the car to the

destination of 'Ultimate mAnaseeka' praying, by

conditiong our mind in the process, it is NOT

necessary to understand 'How' or 'Parts' of the car

working. It is necessary to know 'How to Drive' ('How

to recite' 'How to perform Puja') taught according to

our Guru, priest, elders, as a minimum. For sure,

without vehicle of conditioning, our mind may not be

quick to attain the 'clear, non-disturbed, mAnaseeka

praying ability'.

 

As a side note, it is always nice to become a master

in (understanding) all of what we do with its inner

meaning to feel good in our mind, but sometimes

realities of life (varities of human minds with

varying mental abilities) forces us to follow 'elders'

or seniors in actions (like using lemon garlands for

Devi or using Rice flour Kolam, or lighting lamps

individually by going to temples, etc, etc). Such

people shower Love to Lord/Devi in 'regular' actions

in terms of customs. One can always question which

LOVE is better, but, that I think, it is silly to do

so. I think such peoples' motive cannot be quesioned,

except we can follow a different route if our mind

feels it can harness Lord's/Devi's praise/Love in a

different way.

 

Hope I am right in my thinking,

 

of course, as always, suggestions/corrections welcome,

 

May Devi Bless Us All,

Narayanan

 

--- "Ravi <miinalochanii"

<miinalochanii wrote:

> , "satisharigela

> <satisharigela>"

> <satisharigela> wrote:

> >

> > I feel that it is better to spend time chanting

> Lalita

> Ashtottara

> > or Bala Tripura Sundari Ashtottara rather than

> spending time on

> > pujas which have no shastric base.

>

> Even this not required or must, as if one does not

> understand

> Sanskrit, he or she will not understand what these

> names mean; and

> teachings that underly behind these names. I agree

> with you that

> starting or undertaking any new puuja (without a

> shaastri basis) is

> of not much use. I would say that even with any

> kaamya karma

> approved by shaastra-s.

>

>

> The key is sharaNagati to God and guru. One has to

> just understand

> and realize one's utter dependence on God. Right

> from the air we

> breath, water we drink, food we eat, or anything for

> that matter, we

> are utterly utterly dependent on HER power. I

> typically try to

> remember this whenever I eat something. Now I trying

> to remember

> this even while drinking a cup of water. Finally, it

> should become

> practice when one takes every gasp of air.

>

> Understanding this will also lead to (atleast at

> intelectual level

> to start with) understanding of "yastu sarvaaNi

> bhuutani aatmanii

> eva anupashyate ..." and lead to samatva bhava. SHE

> is indweller of

> all and each jiiva goes through this topsy turvy

> curve of life

> according to praarabdha. So there is nothing great

> about some one or

> lowly about another (Words of sangam poet kaniyan

> puunkuNranaar -

> periyorai viyaththalum ilame chiriyorai igazthalum

> ilame; and

> thiithum nanRum piRar thara vaaraa, sumaarizes the

> above well).

>

> One has to do what is obligatoy and otherwise

> contemplate on God,

> one;s dependence on God and the act/consequences of

> sharaNagati to

> God. Personally, I see no better path to God than

> sharaNagati. In

> fact, it is same as nidhidhyAsana of vedAnta maarga.

>

> My 2c.

>

> Ravi

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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