Guest guest Posted February 7, 2003 Report Share Posted February 7, 2003 Dear Amba brothers and sisters Thrupurasundhari at Thiruvanmiyur near Adyar is a form of Matha showing one of the most beautiful form. She is Varaprasadhini and you can get all your requests fulfilled. Marundheesa or Aushadheeswara is the Shiva lingha swyambhu and had milk abhisheka directly from Kamadhenu. This is near Adyar ,Chennai Bus routes are 1,1R,47D,23A etc. You can see even today the foot prints of Kamadhenu on Lingha. Lingha is white and see lines on the lingha they say is because of Kamashenu's milk abhisheka. Swami himself is medicine for both worldly diseases and egoes. Have dharshan and get all in life. Regards Ramanan Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2003 Report Share Posted February 7, 2003 Namaste dakinic_monk, Ego is not inherently "bad." It is like a tool that is needed to function in this world. Sri H. W. L. "Papaji" Poonja says that you should wear your ego like you wear your clothes; you need them to go outside and perform your dharma. But, our true ego-less state is like being completely naked. It is the state of nirvikalpa samadhi which is absolutely beyond any actions, conceptions, or words. Just as sages in nirvikalpa samadhi are completely unaware of this phenomenal world and can remain in this state for days or weeks, so are those who are naked not so free to move about society. Ramakrishna's disciples had to use various methods to bring the sage down from his heights of ego-less ecstacy so he could give upadesha. Just so, we need ego to function in the world. But the point of sadhana is to remove the "clothes" of ego so that the Self is uncovered. Refer to the symbolism of Kali holding the demon's head and bloody sword, Chinnamasta holding her own head and drinking her own blood, or Durga destroying Mahishasura, the stubborn buffalo demon. These are all symbolic of destruction the ego. Once the ego is destroyed and the Self is naked and shines forth as Brahman, then the disciple is free and he can put his "clothes" back on or not. It is then His free choice. AUM , "kalika Putra" <dakinic_monk> wrote: > > > > > One's ego is the form of mother, why would you want to subdue it? Offcourse > the ego is in a dreaming state and our consciousness is that very dream the > gradual awakening is represented with the chakras opening. > > I don't understand why ego is said to be a bad thing! > > http://greetings..au - Greetings > - Send some online love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 What you have written below is not in line with traditional vedanta. Please refer to verses 299-316 of vivekachuuDamani, point by point it will show how the traditional understanding is different. This section is called "ahaN^kaara ninda" or Critique of ahaN^kaara. There is a good English translation by P. Sankaranarayanan of sringeri aacharya (shrii shrii chandrasekhara bhaarati svaminaH) published by Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan. I would not like to go further into this matter, as I want ambaaL to stay more on devotional side, discussing traditional devotional material which are in line with samayAchaara. Thanks. Ravi , "sivadancer <sivadancer>" <sivadancer> wrote: > Namaste dakinic_monk, > > Ego is not inherently "bad." It is like a tool that is needed to > function in this world. Sri H. W. L. "Papaji" Poonja says that you > should wear your ego like you wear your clothes; you need them to go > outside and perform your dharma. But, our true ego-less state is like > being completely naked. It is the state of nirvikalpa samadhi which is > absolutely beyond any actions, conceptions, or words. Just as sages in > nirvikalpa samadhi are completely unaware of this phenomenal world and > can remain in this state for days or weeks, so are those who are naked > not so free to move about society. Ramakrishna's disciples had to use > various methods to bring the sage down from his heights of ego- less > ecstacy so he could give upadesha. Just so, we need ego to function in > the world. > > But the point of sadhana is to remove the "clothes" of ego so that the > Self is uncovered. Refer to the symbolism of Kali holding the demon's > head and bloody sword, Chinnamasta holding her own head and drinking > her own blood, or Durga destroying Mahishasura, the stubborn buffalo > demon. These are all symbolic of destruction the ego. Once the ego is > destroyed and the Self is naked and shines forth as Brahman, then the > disciple is free and he can put his "clothes" back on or not. It is > then His free choice. > > AUM > > > , "kalika Putra" <dakinic_monk> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One's ego is the form of mother, why would you want to subdue it? > Offcourse > > the ego is in a dreaming state and our consciousness is that very > dream the > > gradual awakening is represented with the chakras opening. > > > > I don't understand why ego is said to be a bad thing! > > > > http://greetings..au - Greetings > > - Send some online love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 Thank you Ravi, I understand the focus of thie list, but I feel it is appropriate to at least briefly quote the crucial verses from the vivekachUDamani to point out my error, so others may not make the same mistake. "Mighty ego, even though cut root and all, if brought to life again even for a moment, in thought, causes a hundred dissipations of energy, as a cloud shaken by the wind in the rainy seasons, pours forth its floods. [309] After seizing the enemy, ego, no respite at all is to be given to it, by thoughts of sensual objects. Just this is the cause of its coming to life again, as water is of the lime tree that had withered away." [310] AUM , "Ravi <miinalochanii>" <miinalochanii> wrote: > What you have written below is not in line with traditional vedanta. > Please refer to verses 299-316 of vivekachuuDamani, point by point > it will show how the traditional understanding is different. This > section is called "ahaN^kaara ninda" or Critique of ahaN^kaara. > There is a good English translation by P. Sankaranarayanan of > sringeri aacharya (shrii shrii chandrasekhara bhaarati svaminaH) > published by Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan. I would not like to go further > into this matter, as I want ambaaL to stay more on devotional side, > discussing traditional devotional material which are in line with > samayAchaara. > > > > Thanks. > > Ravi > > > , "sivadancer <sivadancer>" > <sivadancer> wrote: > > Namaste dakinic_monk, > > > > Ego is not inherently "bad." It is like a tool that is needed to > > function in this world. Sri H. W. L. "Papaji" Poonja says that you > > should wear your ego like you wear your clothes; you need them to > go > > outside and perform your dharma. But, our true ego-less state is > like > > being completely naked. It is the state of nirvikalpa samadhi > which is > > absolutely beyond any actions, conceptions, or words. Just as > sages in > > nirvikalpa samadhi are completely unaware of this phenomenal world > and > > can remain in this state for days or weeks, so are those who are > naked > > not so free to move about society. Ramakrishna's disciples had to > use > > various methods to bring the sage down from his heights of ego- > less > > ecstacy so he could give upadesha. Just so, we need ego to > function in > > the world. > > > > But the point of sadhana is to remove the "clothes" of ego so that > the > > Self is uncovered. Refer to the symbolism of Kali holding the > demon's > > head and bloody sword, Chinnamasta holding her own head and > drinking > > her own blood, or Durga destroying Mahishasura, the stubborn > buffalo > > demon. These are all symbolic of destruction the ego. Once the ego > is > > destroyed and the Self is naked and shines forth as Brahman, then > the > > disciple is free and he can put his "clothes" back on or not. It > is > > then His free choice. > > > > AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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