Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 Dear Ram, The pancha makaras symbolise the five major rituals needed in sadhana (i.e Pranayama and so on), they also have association with bhuta Shuddhi and the five elements. The ones you mentioned are encrypted and you don't offer the literal things since that is asuri (demonic or not harmonious). However there some exceptions; this ritual allows you to make your Kundalini rise without any side effects. If you want more information I can give. http://mobile..au - Mobile - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 kalika Putra <dakinic_monk wrote:you don't offer the literal things since that is asuri (demonic or not harmonious). Sub : PANCHAMAKARA ( Comments ) and the VAMACHARA I saw a learned devotee commenting on the use of the panchamakra substances as asuric or as demonic Sadhana practiced by evil character persons. (meaning of Demonic as it implies both the substances asnd the sadhak using it). I think this sweeping judgement the author has passed is out of a bias or ignorance or a misunderstanding of the Kularnava tantra or Vamakeswara Tantra and with out ANY authority ON THE SUBJECT. While I am NO ADVOCATE for this type of tough path of the tantra any comments of this nature in a focussed group on AMBAAL brings only disrepute or demeans the TANTRA and poisions or repulses the reader looking for information on the tantra subjects from a specialised web site such as this one . In order to put the things in the right perspective, I thought putting these few lines. Source : LIFE OF RAMAKRISHNA PARAMA HAMSA ( Published by R.K Mission) One of the Tantric Guru of Parama Hamsa named “ BRAHMI BHAIRAVI “ on divine directions from the Divine Mother teaches the Tantric sadhana to Paramahamsa . This particular incident talked about in the book, the sadhana goes as ------- The Tantric guru Brings from the cemetery a piece of BURNT AND SMELLY DECAYED HUMAN FLESH and in the midnight Paramahamsa was to lick this indicated substance from the tip of the tongue and as soon as this was done by the PARAMAHAMSA , it was observed by the guru Brahmi Bhairavi, Paramahamsa attains the state of SAVIKALPA SAMADHI . IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT PARAMAHAMSA WAS A COMBINED AVATAR OF “RAMA AND KRISHNA” AS REVEALED BY HIM AND HE HAS LIVED IN THE CONTEMPORARAY TIMES. Now an ignorant person would comment on this spiritual exercise as stupid or demonic. It is not so because the status of mind of such great sadhaks was of such an advanced nature that the sensual smell of the most pleasing perfume or a scented flower on the earth was as good or equivalent to as the most repelling or distasteful substance on the earth such as the one involved in this exercise. We similarly we see from a Sloka of MOOKA PANCHASATHY , the Sadhak who GETS THE KAAMAKSHI KATAKSHAM is identified as : The person who equalises the most beautiful thing on the earth with that of the most ugliest one such as the (ottancahalli—a scrap) ,such a person who treats in equal terms a bosom friend and an arch enemy ,and such person’s mental state is said to be same whether he lives in the most beautiful palace or in the mid of forest. ( In the Arya sadakam—sloka kamakshi katakshita purushaaa ---) So pl pl do not write any passing stupid remarks with out ANY authority on the TANTRAS or its practices, if it does not suit one . The vamachara though in English is called the left handed path , literally means “ favourable or excellent”. And those who are endowed with the finest spiritual wisdom are naturally the excellent. The PARA SHAKTI is fondly attached to this excellent path as is evident and confirmed in the Lalitha / Bhawani sahasranamas namavalies recognising such practices and this is the path of the YOGIES who seek her in KAULA way. Such paths of realising the supreme self are extremely complicated and so difficult. It is for thise who have become MASTERS of their SENSE ORGANS jitendriyas. Therefore the Goddess is worshipped the best by the followers of Vamachara who are yogis, good in theory as well as practice who do it with full faith and devotion. VAMA also means SECRET. Through the secret means which is excellent also leads to the realisation of the self. VAMA also means the giver of the excellent fruits of pure acts. In the tantric lore Goddess Vama is the charming spouse of God VAMADEVA. She considers the Vamakeswara tantra as authoritative as it is taught by Siva Himself. The deity is known also as ANANDABHAiRAVI with her counterpart as ANANDABHAIRAVA (the otherside of the same coin) PL NOTE THIS PATH IS NOT APPLICBLE FOR AN ORDINRY PASU AND ALL ARE PASUS AS A RULE THOUGH THERE CAN BE SOME EXCEPTION. JAI VAMA DEVA / VAMA DEVI GANAPATHY = = = VIJAYALAKSHMY The pancha makaras symbolise the five major rituals needed in sadhana (i.e Pranayama and so on), they also have association with bhuta Shuddhi and the five elements. The ones you mentioned are encrypted and you don't offer the literal things since that is asuri (demonic or not harmonious). However there some exceptions; this ritual allows you to make your Kundalini rise without any side effects. 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