Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thank you Raviji for leading this discussion in the right direction and also for putting 'things' in their proper prospective. how can one reach the 'formless' brahHman without transcending the form? How can one be a 'nirguna' jnani without being a 'Saguna' bhakta at some point? Members, i would like to narrate an incident that took place In shri Ramakrishna paramahamsa's life. Shri Totapuri was shri ramakrishna's guru. Totapuri was an adept of the formless reality, the cloudless sky of the absolute. He regarded the worship of divine forms as childish. Totapuri knew that Ramakrishna, despite his appearance as a simple devotee of the Goddess, was inwardly prepared to receive initiation into the knowledge of the absolute, in which all forms and all emotions are left behind. Totapuri approached Ramakrishna with the proposal that he receive initiation into Advaita Vedanta. Ramakrishna replied, "I must ask my Mother Kali." He entered the temple and received permission from the living divinity that he experienced pulsatiing through the stone image enshrined there. That evening, Toatpuri began instructing Ramakrishna in Formless Meditation. But as Ramakrishna concentrated deeply, the radiant figure of the Goddess appeared to his inner eye. When he reported this to Totapuri, the austere naked monk took a sharp stone and pressed it firmly against Ramakrishna's forehead, instructing him to concentrate on the pain and assuring him that he could transcend the divine form and merge into the infinite expanse of the absolute. Once more, Ramakrishna meditated and, as he later expressed it, "with the sword of wisdom, I cut through the divine form of Kali." Her form dissolved, and his individuality completely disappeared into Her formless aspect. For three days Ramakrishna was completely lost to the world in a near state of suspended animation called Nirodha, seated in the small Meditation Hut, motionless, all breathing and body functions slowed to a standstill. Totapuri was amazed,! Totapuri had practiced for forty years to achieve the same level of experience -- nirvikalpa samadhi -- the disappearance of individual identity in the Absolute. It occurred to Ramakrishna in a single sitting. Totapuri as an orthodox wandering monk never remained more than three days in one location. However, he became so awed by Ramakrishna's ability in Samadhi to remain 'rigid as a corpse for days on end', that he broke his longstanding rule, resulting in him staying eleven months at Dakshineswar hoping to learn from the man who had previously been his disciple. During this long stay he contracted serious dysentery. There was prolonged and severe pain, which was distracting Totapuri during meditation. Since he considered the body just a medium, essentially unnecessary after the realization of the Absolute, he decided to give up his body by drowning in the Ganges. He walked out into the river, but, even though the river should have been extremely deep, at least in the middle, no matter how far he went the water never got above his knees. He ended up without ever reaching deep water. Eventually he came upon the bank on the far side and when he turned to look back, he saw the Kali temple gleaming in moonlight and experienced a sudden deep Awakening. He recognized sheer divine power and consciousness, moving through all beings and controlling all events, including his own attempt to discard the body. Totapuri thus accepted the manifest universe and its energy as a radiant _expression of the Absolute. The demarcation between form and formless no longer existed for him. Although his whole life had been spiritual in nature, Totapuri, without any verbal teaching, had opened beyond he experience of the formless absolute into the continuum of consciousness, from which no divine, human, or natural forms are excluded and to which no particular doctrine exclusively applies. courtesy- http://www.angelfire.com this is also narrated in the gospel of Ramakrishna. our beloved Shankara bhagvadapada himself says... " Iswara anugrahadeva pumsam adwaitha vasana," -It is only through God's own grace that one can comprehend Him as being without name and form! i am sure you are all familiar with adi shankara's baja govindam... one verse reads... bhagwatgita kinchidadita gangajala lava kanika pita sakradapi yasya murari samarcha tasya yamaha kim kurate charcha? one who has read one word of Bhagvat gita one who has drank one drop of ganges water one who has chanted the holy name of the Lord (murari or any ishta- nishta) how can even the lord of death approach such a person....? the esoteric meaning is if one has reads the scriptures , visitsd holy places of pilgrimages and constantly remembers the name of the lord (nama smaranam), he is forever immortal? mukta-jivi? if this is not a description of bhakti yoga, what else is ? bhakti yoga is the easiest and the most natural way to reach the lotus feet of devi... but bhakti should not be confused with 'fanaticism' - that is what people in lower stages of bhakti do (the gauna bhaktas) for them , my 'krishna' is superior to your shiva or shakti little realizing that theare all divine manifestations of the same 'parabrahman' ! this, you see shri ramakrishna singing the songs of Kali and also dancing in ecstasy to the Krishna songs of chaitanya mahaprabhu! for a jnani worships 'brahman' in all his divine manifestations! this was true of adi shankara too! he composed hymns on all deities shiva, narasimha , govinda besides numerous hymns on devi! Jnana and bhakti are not mutually exclusive ! they converge at some point! jnana without bhakti is lame and bhakti without jnana is blind! folks, and what is true 'jnana' ? jnana does not refer to dry knowledge of vedas, upanishads and the gita! jnana means 'knowledge of the self' Tat TWAM ASI! SHRI GURAVE NAMAHA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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