Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Sri Vinesh wrote According the a lot of sources mother SundarI is one who is pleased by singing of mantras (strong reference to vedic mantra/sukta known as the durga sukta). Sub : Why Vedic Mantras should not be Sung I do not know under what authority sri Vineshji has made the aforesaid observation ……... I have extracted this information from the Voice Of the Guru on the “ HINDU DHARMA “ HH Pujya SRI SRI Mahaperiayavaal. – for the benefit of members and most of us must be familiar with what our Jagad Guru has said. Our forefathers devised a number of methods to preserve the unwritten Vedas in their original form, to safeguard their tonal and verbal purity. they laid down rules to make sure that not a syllable was changed in chanting. They fixed the time taken to enunciate each syllable of a word and called this unit of time – matras. How we must regulate our breathing to produce the desired vibration in a particular part of our body so that the sound of the syllable enunciated is produced in its pure form which is determined in the vedanga called siksa. Here the even the similarities and differences between the swaras of music and of the Vedas are dealt with. So too those between the sound voiced by birds and animals on the one hand and vedic swaras on the other. With such a detail the right way is shown for the intonation of vedic mantras. Further to ensure that the words and syllables are not altered to the SLIGHTESET EXTENT a method has been prescribed as to how the mantras are strung together. The patterns are – vakya – pada – karma – jata – mala – sikha – rekha – dhvaja – danda – ratha – Ghana. For brevity I am not writing the rules of chanting karma, jata etc.. which is a particular permutation and combination of the vedic mantras. This has been done to protect the sound of our Vedas against change and distortion – tonal and verbal purity for ALL THE TIME TO COME . We know from scientific studies that sound can create, sustain and destroy. This fact must have been known to our maharishies who were mantra drishtas – acquiring these mantras from the cosmos ,with the power of concentration acquired through austerities. Vedic chanting is not the same as singing as it is a MANTRA YOGA – the vibration in each nadi creates certain feelings or urges in the consciousness as would bring atmic well being not only to the person reciting but to the society at large. That is the reason that Vedas should be chanted loudly and not meditated upon. >From the above explanation of maha maha periayval Vedas cannot be set to a tune as it is in a raga with musical accompaniments but recited only according to the tones appropriately prescribed. There must be a certain poise about the man who chants the Vedas and even shaking a head as in music recitals means the nadi vibrations get affected. Considering that our maharishies took so much care to make sure that the sound of Vedas did not undergo the slightest change in thousands of years , it would be Total ignorance if one observes that the Vedas can be sung. Ganapathy --- Vijaya " Jai Bhavani " - - - - " Jai Sri Lalitha Maha Maha Tripura Sundari " " Sarvam Shakti Mayam Jagath " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 my understanding was that sanskrit originally had a tone based accent -- apparently all indoeuropean languages did. but later, for some reason, sanskrit was pronounced with a stress or ictus type accent only. is this true? does anyone know any written references discussing these terms:vakya – pada – karma – jata – mala – sikha – rekha – dhvaja – danda – ratha – Ghana. patrick , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101> wrote: > > Sri Vinesh wrote > > > > According the a lot of sources mother SundarI is one who is pleased by > singing of mantras (strong reference to vedic mantra/sukta known as the > durga sukta). > > > > > > Sub : Why Vedic Mantras should not be Sung > > > > I do not know under what authority sri Vineshji has made the aforesaid observation ……... > > > > I have extracted this information from the Voice Of the Guru on the > > " HINDU DHARMA " HH Pujya SRI SRI Mahaperiayavaal. – for the benefit of members and most of us must be familiar with what our Jagad Guru has said. > > > > Our forefathers devised a number of methods to preserve the unwritten Vedas in their original form, to safeguard their tonal and verbal purity. they laid down rules to make sure that not a syllable was changed in chanting. > > > > They fixed the time taken to enunciate each syllable of a word and called this unit of time – matras. How we must regulate our breathing to produce the desired vibration in a particular part of our body so that the sound of the syllable enunciated is produced in its pure form which is determined in the vedanga called siksa. Here the even the similarities and differences between the swaras of music and of the Vedas are dealt with. So too those between the sound voiced by birds and animals on the one hand and vedic swaras on the other. With such a detail the right way is shown for the intonation of vedic mantras. > > > > Further to ensure that the words and syllables are not altered to the SLIGHTESET EXTENT a method has been prescribed as to how the mantras are strung together. The patterns are – vakya – pada – karma – jata – mala – sikha – rekha – dhvaja – danda – ratha – Ghana. > > > > For brevity I am not writing the rules of chanting karma, jata etc.. which is a particular permutation and combination of the vedic mantras. > > > > This has been done to protect the sound of our Vedas against change and distortion – tonal and verbal purity for ALL THE TIME TO COME . > > > > We know from scientific studies that sound can create, sustain and destroy. > > > > This fact must have been known to our maharishies who were mantra drishtas – acquiring these mantras from the cosmos ,with the power of concentration acquired through austerities. > > > > Vedic chanting is not the same as singing as it is a MANTRA YOGA – the vibration in each nadi creates certain feelings or urges in the consciousness as would bring atmic well being not only to the person reciting but to the society at large. That is the reason that Vedas should be chanted loudly and not meditated upon. > > > > From the above explanation of maha maha periayval Vedas cannot be set to a tune as it is in a raga with musical accompaniments but recited only according to the tones appropriately prescribed. > > > > There must be a certain poise about the man who chants the Vedas and even shaking a head as in music recitals means the nadi vibrations get affected. > > > > Considering that our maharishies took so much care to make sure that the sound of Vedas did not undergo the slightest change in thousands of years , it would be Total ignorance if one observes that the Vedas can be sung. > > > > > > > > Ganapathy --- Vijaya > > " Jai Bhavani " - - - - " Jai Sri Lalitha Maha Maha Tripura Sundari " > > " Sarvam Shakti Mayam Jagath " > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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