Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Sub : Religion And Philosophy ( ref personal mails to Prof Krishnamuthyji on blind faith and logic) Religion insists on faith and philosophy emphasizes reason.These are two functions of our thinking and if followed sincerely often cross each other's path.The purpose of philosophy is to enable the seeker to see truth directly. The upanishads lays down two paths for spiritual aspirants. one for the jnanins who chose the path of knowledge exclusively and the others who have not attained the necessary internal development needed to renounce desires. A Jgnani need not perform any karmas and he devotes his time on the study of the upanisisadic texts ,reflects and contemplates and realises the truth. The other path which the upanishad has laid down is for persons who are attracted by materialstic things around the world and who worship God as a person purely on faith with the aim of securing through HER grace worldly happiness and spiritual bliss .Such people take to upasanas and at the same time acquire vidya about the supreme divinity. by pursuing this path they attain the brahma loka after death as per upanishad. Apparently these two paths which mutually opposes -- one based on faith perfrorming rituals and attaining of heavenly felicity through them while the other path minimised the value of these and emphasised the brahman through knowledge and ascetic practices of life as the goal of human life. (karma Kanda of Vedas Vs Jnana Kanda ) Even in the vedic days the difference between theses two schools of thought -- Mimamsa and Vedanta was there in an acute form. In order to effect a reconciliation between these two schools according to some we have the isavasya upanishad. Adi Sankara held strong views about the relation between karma and jnana with an anology like that of light and darkness -- for karma is based on ego sense and desires -- jnana on the very destruction of ego and desire. They can be reconciled only by alloting to stages in spiritual life. -- karma to pre knowledge stage -- when performed as kamya yield to worldy enjoyments and when performed as nishkamya leading to purification of mind.which is a preperatory stage. the way is described as krama - mukthi ( gradual liberation ) and the other kind for a jnani known as Jivan Mukthi ( liberated when embodied ). Therefore we could conclude that there is a close Alliance between Logic and faith. and one is incomplete without the other. The goal of philosophy is truth and the goal of religion is god -- the final experience God = Truth and the same reality. The ultimate experience of truth may be an act of faith but its validity is judged through reason.Truth may transcend reason but it is never illogical. one may not be able to arrive truth exclusively through reason but one's experience and statement of truth cannot be valid if they contradict reason. Religion based on faith without philosophy tends to become dogmatic and superstitious. Philosophy without religion (faith) degenerates into inane and dry intellectualism.at the same time philosophy is important for a religion without which it boils down to sentimentalism. Religion supplies the aspirant with feelings and philosophy prevents him from wandering into dark alleys. That is the reason that the hindu seers harmonised in vedanta both religion and philosophy-- faith and reason. That is the beauty of sanata Dharma's appeal, adequacy and universailty. "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk wrote: Namaste. While I thank several of the members who have personally written to me encouraging words of appreciation, I have yet to reply to some who have raised a few legitimate questions. Some of the questions raised are: 1. Is Shankara the author of Soundaryalahari? 2. Is the Paramacharya trying to please everybody? 3. The ‘definition’ of truth given in DPDS – 08 is not acceptable. 4. How can Brahman have a ‘Desire’? 5. Is Soundaryalahari an advaitic work or a religious piece of devotion? 6. Shall we conclude that the Paramacharya relies on blind faith rather than logic? Instead of trying to answer these and similar questions myself I would recommend them to be raised in the public forum on the group itself so that interested members may participate in the discussion. This way we might be paving the way for a useful discussion on the discourses. I have also another suggestion to make. The Discourses cover a wide ground, almost the entire spectrum of religion and spirituality. It would do us good to read them back and forth more than once. Many doubts that legitimately arise get cleared as we go along. And you can depend on the Paramacharya to anticipate many of our doubts. Also I must say that the Paramacharya is very lucid in his presentation. If you find any lack of lucidity or clarity in the ‘Digest’ presented to you, it would only be my fault. I shall be happy to have a feedback on this aspect so that I can try an improvement. PraNAms to all advaitins and Devotees of Mother Goddess. profvk ===== Prof. V. Krishnamurthy My website on Science and Spirituality is http://www.geocities.com/profvk/ You can access my book on Gems from the Ocean of Hindu Thought Vision and Practice, and my father R. Visvanatha Sastri's manuscripts from the site. -- pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h www : http://www.ambaa.org/ Contact: help Your use of is subject to Ganapathy --- Vijaya " Jai Bhavani " - - - - " Jai Sri Lalitha Maha Maha Tripura Sundari " " Sarvam Shakti Mayam Jagath " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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