Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Is not "Hrim" the praNava of Shakti? I think the Devi Gita says so... "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk wrote: , akka_108 <akka_108> wrote: > I would like to know more about the bija mantra "Im". Namaste. 'Im' is the shakti praNava. 'Om' (also spelt as 'aum') is the praNava that symbolises nirguNa brahman. 'Im' symbolises the saguNa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 <iim.h> is also called as manmatha biija (shankara uses this while explaining <hriim.h>). And it denotes the action of vishhNu is sustaining the universe. As Sridhar pointed out it also occurs in vaagbhava kuuTa of panchadashaaxarii and denoted there as shakti-axara. As Prof. VK pointed out, the reference in shrii suuktam.h is the strongest reference on <iim.h>. Regarding calling it as praNava, shankara while commenting on one of the names in trishatii invokes the argument that <hriim.h> is part of pa~ncha praNava (which is <aim.h>, <kLiim.h>, <sauH>, <hriim.h>, and <shriim.h>). The presence of <iim.h> in four of them is notable. But <iim.h> per se is not included there. I may be wrong on this. On a side note, we know the 4 <iim.h> confer auspiciousness (based on shruti) is the reason why <shriim.h> is added panchadashaaxarii to make it 16-syllabled mantra. I will give the exact quote soon. My 2c. Ravi > > V. Krishnamurthy [profvk] > Friday, September 12, 2003 9:28 AM > > Re: bija Im > > > , akka_108 <akka_108> wrote: > > I would like to know more about the bija mantra "Im". > > Namaste. > > 'Im' is the shakti praNava. 'Om' (also spelt as 'aum') is the > praNava that symbolises nirguNa brahman. 'Im' symbolises the saguNa > brahman, or of the Goddess or the Power of the Almighty. It is to > that shakti praNava one surrenders in toto. "tAm padminIm Im > sharaNaM ahaM prapadye" says the Vedas. It is not possible to > surrender to 'aum' because it is nirguNa brahman and will not admit > any duality in action, speech or thought. > > Also please see Soundaryalahari digest : DPDS-8. > > PraNAms to all devotees of Mother Goddess. > profvk > > > > -- > pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH > sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . > svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM > tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h > > www : http://www.ambaa.org/ > Contact: help > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Ravi, please explain this ... thanks bala > >On a side note, we know the 4 <iim.h> confer auspiciousness (based on >shruti) is the reason why <shriim.h> is added panchadashaaxarii to make it >16-syllabled mantra. I will give the exact quote soon. > > > >My 2c. > >Ravi > _______________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Dear Bala: I am sorry for the delay. There is a line R^ig-veda which says "catvaara iim bibhrati kShemayanta". Which some shriividyopasaka-s take to mean that 4 iim-s confer auspiciousness. How this is applied? --------------------- a) pancha dashaaxarii has three iims. That is the three hriim-s that come in the end in each of three three kuuTa-s. That is, you consider the ending "iim" sound in it. b) If you add shriim to it, that makes it 4 iims. That is something better than the original based on the R^ig vedic verse. You can achieve this by adding aim kliim sauH also. c) As you know, a lot of syllables are added before and after the base mantra to create many variations. They exist with different names. Different are the needs and tastes, hence those variations. What are the issues? --------------------- There are types of disagreements. a) Some may consider that R^ig vedic verse need not be taken that way. We have Sri GP here who is an authority of R^ig veda, probably he can weigh in. b) Some consider a vedic support is not strong enough. They would like to see a such a support in tantra (vide bhaaskararaaya's commentary to verse 3 of LS puurva piiThika). Because, they consider tantra has greater authority on these matters. I think, the base panchadashaxaari is good enough. Why? to answer in two words "lalitaa trishatii". My knowledge on these matters is quite limited. Probably others can add more. I hope at least touched upon your question. Again sorry for the delayed reply, I wanted to call you last week, but somehow missed it. My 2c. Ravi > > Balakrishnan Shankar [balakrishnan_sh] > Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:11 AM > > RE: Re: bija Im > > > > Ravi, > > please explain this ... > > thanks > > bala > > > > >On a side note, we know the 4 <iim.h> confer auspiciousness (based on > >shruti) is the reason why <shriim.h> is added panchadashaaxarii > to make it > >16-syllabled mantra. I will give the exact quote soon. > > > > > > > >My 2c. > > > >Ravi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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