Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 Durga Suktam is in samhita portion of Krishna Yajur veda proper; whereas Sri Suktam is in kila bagha of Rig veda. May be, that is why!! Regards, L Vaidyanathan --- "M. S. Ravisankar" <miinalochanii wrote: My knowledge of shruti is close to zero. However, I am sure there are other direct references to sharaNagati elsewhere in shruti. Just to give an example, "taam padminiim iim sharaNamaham prapadye" -- shrii suuktam. Ravi , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101> wrote: > In the entire Vedas , the deity which is addressed as " Sharanam " is only to the Lalitha parameshwari -- Kaamakshi as" DURGA" and to no other deity this word > " Sharanam" has been used. > > In the Durga Suktham -- " Durgaam Deveem Sharanamaham prapathye " - i seek refuge or protection to Durga responsible for removing in its entirety the problems > > Source Maha Swamy's talk with Veda Bhasya Ratna R. Krishnamurthy Sastrigal -- as reported in the publication Hundred years of light > -- pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h www : http://www.ambaa.org/ Contact: help Terms of Service. ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://.shaadi.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Durga Suktam is not part of Samhita. It is part of the Taittiriya Upanishad and is found in Taittiriya Aranyaka. Maybe it is partially found in samhita, but not classified as a suktham. Srisuktham belonging to kila bhaga of Rig veda, iam not sure............ I think the later part of Srisuktam containing the phalashruthi is kila. Let some Rig veda scholar explain. Regards Anand K. - L Vaidyanathan <vyagrapurielvi Re: Re: Greatness of Durga Suktham > Durga Suktam is in samhita portion of Krishna Yajur > veda proper; whereas Sri Suktam is in kila bagha of > Rig veda. May be, that is why!! > Regards, > L Vaidyanathan <== additional quoted material from previous posts deleted. *Please quote only the portions relevant to the reply* ==> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Once you accept a mantra as a veda mantra, then where it occurs or whether it is in some sort of appendix is not a consideration. Do you consider shrii suuktam as shruti and that particular verse under question as shruti. If yes, then you cannot say that "sharaNam prapadye" in that is any sense inferior. Also it was vyAsa who organized the veda-s. In the previous yuga-s veda-s where not divided into 4, it was only 1. Just to make up for the poor intellect of those in kali yuga it was divided into four. Hence, what comes where should not be question. Also veda-s were seen by many R^ishhi-s at different times, it was only discovered and it was always eternal and apourushheya. Another point is, almost all agree that lot of veda is lost to us (especially saama veda is supposed have 1000 shaaka-s, aacharya himself quotes this with reference to the verse "aayiram shaakai uDaiyaan" which refers to shiva as one who was praised by the 1000 shaaka-s of saama veda. Of this only two are extant now). When so much is not known to us, it is not fair to assert "in entire veda-s". The sharanAm prapadye in durga suktam, attains enormous greatness and strength by the following words "sutarasi tarase namaH" and also the phrase "karma phaleshhu jushhTaam". But at the same time we should note that word shrii itself has the root that goes to form the word sharaNa etc. They are both the same. Looking at fire pictures of California, I could not find any difference between hiraNya varNaam and agnii varNaam. That glowing fire was golden colored. May be the gold is a cold fire. Any way last few days was good, as I was thinking about the sharaNagati in durga suuktam a lot, some how it is difficult to translate in English. "I take refuge in durgaa devii, who is fire-colored, who shines due to tapas, who belongs to the Lord, and who is power that bestows and enables one enjoy karma phala. May she who takes her refugees across the terrible ocean of samsaara and may She help me by taking me across that ocean. To Her my namaskaarams." In Tamil, you can get away a lot with using Sanskrit words "agni varNamaanavaLum, tapasinaal jvalipavaLum, karma phalani koDukkum (anubhavikkachcheyyum)aaRRalaay niRpavaLum, iRaivanukku uriyavaLum (iRaivinin aaRallum) aana anda duurgaa deviyai naan sharaNamaDigiren. thunbakkaDalaana inda samsaara saagaraththai kaTaththuvippavaLe, ennaiyum karai cherpaay. thaaye unakku namaskaaram" Can some one throw light on how traditional bhaashhya-s handle the word vairochaniim? And how they explain it in sanskrit. Why I am asking is, many sanskrit words are easy to grasp when explained in sanskrit. My 2c. Ravi > > L Vaidyanathan [vyagrapurielvi] > Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:28 PM > > Re: Re: Greatness of Durga Suktham > > > Durga Suktam is in samhita portion of Krishna Yajur > veda proper; whereas Sri Suktam is in kila bagha of > Rig veda. May be, that is why!! > Regards, > L Vaidyanathan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Who Has said this to whom : If one goes to analyse this aspect of the transaction -- It is apparent that Mahaswamy who is recognised widely as a reincarnation of Adi Shankara has spoken about this to Veda Bhasyam -- Vidhya Varidhi Brahma Shree krishnamurthy Sastrigal who happens to be the principal of sanskrit college Chennai. I am sure by virtue of the immense knowledge of vedas and intellect prowess, either parties would have known where all this term " Sharanam " has been used in the entire Vedas. I think there must be some special reason for Maha Swamy to have said like this, which has to be found out. May be a call to the sastrigal by a devotee of this group based at chennai would give us a very clear idea as to the reasons why Mahaperiyavaal said so. L Vaidyanathan <vyagrapurielvi wrote: Durga Suktam is in samhita portion of Krishna Yajur veda proper; whereas Sri Suktam is in kila bagha of Rig veda. May be, that is why!! Regards, L Vaidyanathan --- "M. S. Ravisankar" <miinalochanii wrote: My knowledge of shruti is close to zero. However, I am sure there are other direct references to sharaNagati elsewhere in shruti. Just to give an example, "taam padminiim iim sharaNamaham prapadye" -- shrii suuktam. Ravi , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101> wrote: > In the entire Vedas , the deity which is addressed as " Sharanam " is only to the Lalitha parameshwari -- Kaamakshi as" DURGA" and to no other deity this word > " Sharanam" has been used. > > In the Durga Suktham -- " Durgaam Deveem Sharanamaham prapathye " - i seek refuge or protection to Durga responsible for removing in its entirety the problems > > Source Maha Swamy's talk with Veda Bhasya Ratna R. Krishnamurthy Sastrigal -- as reported in the publication Hundred years of light > -- pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h www : http://www.ambaa.org/ Contact: help Terms of Service. ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Go to http://.shaadi.com -- pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h www : http://www.ambaa.org/ Contact: help Ganapathy --- Vijaya " Jai Bhavani " - - - - " Jai Sri Lalitha Maha Maha Tripura Sundari " " Sarvam Shakti Mayam Jagath " Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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