Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Regarding Shatru-samhara trishati, there is nothing to make a big fuss about regarding kamya or shatru etc. It is the other name for Subrahmanya Trishati which a great mantra work having a great deal of samputanam of various Shiva, Devi and Skanda mantras. It is a daily affair in Swamimalai Swaminathaswami temple near Kumbakonam, India. Regards Anand K - sankara menon <kochu1tz <> Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:46 AM Re: Kaamya Prayogas (Was Re : Shatru Samhara Thrisati ) > If I am not offending anybody; I would like to state that these > kamya prayogas are to be handled carefully. > > It is said that kamya prayogas immediatly close the spiritual > progress. > > When we have surrendered to HER why should we do kamya > prayogas? I do not know. > > However I have a question for the learned in the group. If > Kamya prayogas are frowned upon, then why are they discribed > in detail in our texts? Any explanation on that? > > Kochu > > Note : post edited by moderator to remove excessive quoting. > > > > -- > pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH > sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . > svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM > tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h > > www : http://www.ambaa.org/ > Contact: help > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: However I have a question for the learned in the group. If Kamya prayogas are frowned upon, then why are they discribed in detail in our texts? Any explanation on that? Kochu Reply : As per our scriptures Kamya prayogas are never frowned upon. Even the King Dasarath did the Puthra Kameshshti Yagna. The devi Saptha Sati can be recited for either spiritual progress or for an Artha sastra to get a particular benefit. as many have followed these methods and achieved results they are not only sure to get the desired but also is a safe option. every jiva is in a certain spiritual stage or evolution and all can't be siddas. Most men take to the worship of a deity to achieve some objective in life. but the worship perse results in strengthening the bonds between the devotee and the deity. in course of time that has a greater pull and attraction than the objective with which the devotee originally started to worship. finally the devotee realises the objective's impermanency and it pales into insignificance. it may also vanish in toto because they are either fulfilled or replaced by higher objectives. Therefore the right thing for the ordinary people is to conduct such yagnas, homas or pujas mentioned in the sastras and experience the desired benefits arising from it. this would be of immense help to them in contemplating the self later. and the desire to follow the sastras in all aspects of life would mean that such jivas would be brought under a discipline. more over when we subordinate our views to the injunctions of the sastras we would cultivate the qualities of humility and simplicity-- thus making us better persons and this would converge towards the supreme objective of moksha,in this life or in the births to follow which is the ultimate goal of either a kamya or nishkamya karma. the Devi saptha sati can be used as prayoga for any karya siddhi -- accomplishment of purpose. ganapathy -- pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h www : http://www.ambaa.org/ Contact: help Ganapathy --- Vijaya " Jai Bhavani " - - - - " Jai Sri Lalitha Maha Maha Tripura Sundari " " Sarvam Shakti Mayam Jagath " Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 during this week the trishati is used for performing Homam, culminating in sura samharam. Skanda as the leader of the divine army (mahasenesha) is also the destroyer of sathru (inimical forces) the trishati is replete with bijaksharams and should not be chanted without diksha. my belief is that it (like most sahasranamams and trishati) can be found in the Skanda purana as regards prayoga, visualise shakthi as a pure force (nirguna, niakara etc...) this force can be used for any purpose however the axiom 'every action has a reaction' is aptly applicable here. Puranas say that when a sage curses, his shakthi is reduced upasana (SriVidya etc...) yoga (Raja yoga etc..) are just ways of harnessing the sakthi. all the divine astras can be visualised as harnessed shakthi. mere knowledge of the mantra behind an astra is not enough. A good guru is an absolute must when embarking on a spiritual journey as the distractions are many. When tempted (by anger, envy etc) one can very easily resort to prayogas and only the karuna of a Guru and constant contemplation can help one overcome it. That is why even Parasurama an avatar of Vishnu had a guru in Datatreya, is it not wonderful that the guru of an avatar of Vishnu is Vishnu himself, from an allegorical point of view this is very intuitive, only contemplation on the inner self leads to realization, that is why in SriVidya the body is the temple in which the Devi resides (there where some earlier posts regarding prostrations and SriVidya upasakas). that is why the parama yogi Siva is in eternal contemplation. please forgive me for the long rambling post, moderator please feel free to edit it -vishwanathan --- K Anand <carex wrote: > Regarding Shatru-samhara trishati, there is nothing > to make a big fuss about > regarding kamya or shatru etc. It is the other name > for Subrahmanya Trishati > which a great mantra work having a great deal of > samputanam of various > Shiva, Devi and Skanda mantras. It is a daily affair > in Swamimalai > Swaminathaswami temple near Kumbakonam, India. > > Regards > Anand K > - > sankara menon <kochu1tz > <> > Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:46 AM > Re: Kaamya Prayogas (Was Re : > Shatru Samhara Thrisati ) > > > > If I am not offending anybody; I would like to > state that these > > kamya prayogas are to be handled carefully. > > > > It is said that kamya prayogas immediatly close > the spiritual > > progress. > > > > When we have surrendered to HER why should we do > kamya > > prayogas? I do not know. > > > > However I have a question for the learned in the > group. If > > Kamya prayogas are frowned upon, then why are they > discribed > > in detail in our texts? Any explanation on that? > > > > Kochu > > > > Note : post edited by moderator to remove > excessive quoting. > > > > > > > > -- > > pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH > > sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . > > svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM > > tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM > stutiriyam.h > > > > www : http://www.ambaa.org/ > > Contact: help > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch./promos/britneyspears/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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