Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 In the book "Vedas" published by Bharathiya Vidya Bhavan (and I think in Hindu Dharma also, I am not sure), kAnchi paramAcharya discusses this matter in detail. Ravi > > ramki61 [ramki61] > word purusha is pronounced prukha and Yat as jat etc., I think even > Panini has mentioned about the pronounciation aspect of people in > different part of the country. I think learned scholars in the group > such as Prof. Krishnamoorthy can give better reasoning for such > difference in the pronounciation. > ramakrishnan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Dear Sir Sri Chandrasekarendra Saraswati of Kanchimutt has addressed this issue in his book called Hindu Dharma which is extracted from Deivathin kural. There is a separate chapter dedicated to this issue of difference in pronunciation of vedic terms in various regions of India. I dont recollect the name of the chapter. sorry. Regards anand K - V. Krishnamurthy <profvk <> Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:10 PM Re: Shring or Shrim > , "ramki61" <ramki61> wrote: > > Pranams, > > Yes It is correct but in the eastern part of india there is a > > tendency to pronounce the Kleem as kleeng, Hrim as Hring. Even > while > > chanting vedic mantras especially in the shukla veda in the north > the > > word purusha is pronounced prukha and Yat as jat etc., I think > even > > Panini has mentioned about the pronounciation aspect of people in > > different part of the country. I think learned scholars in the > group > > such as Prof. Krishnamoorthy can give better reasoning for such > > difference in the pronounciation. > > ramakrishnan > > Namaste Ramakrishnan -ji > > Sorry. I do not know anything about the origins of the difference in > pronunciation of these bija-mantras. But I would like to know, > certainly. > > PraNAms to all devotees of Mother Goddess. > profvk > > > -- > pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH > sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . > svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM > tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h > > www : http://www.ambaa.org/ > Contact: help > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Pranams, I am sure the pandits at the moksha Puri Jagannath temple must be equally reciting the mantras in their "own" correct way like their South Indian counterpart from time immemorial. why I am saying is, when I read this mail I was reminded of the experience of HH Shree Ramanujam who practiced and totally surrendered to Sriman Narayana ( Saranagathi ) , while succeeded in changing the puja procedures at Tirupathi Balaji temple, could not do the SAME at Puri . When he attempted to do it , on the appointed day he was forced out of puri by Sriman Narayana and found him lying in the early morning, 100 miles from puri.The puja pathadati was never changed. Jai Govindarupini rkrangan <rkrangan wrote: Namaste I was recently in Puri and had the opportunity to interact with some learned scholars regarding some mantras. True. They chant AIM as AING, HREEM as HREENG, KLEEM as KLEENG..etc. Infact, a senior priest who accompanied me to Sri Jagannatha temple chanted "OM NAMO BHAGAWATHE BASUDEVAAYO". For a moment, I stood shocked and almost forgot the correct version. :-) When I chanted "Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaaya", as how I have been taught in our South Indian style, he objected to it and said it is the other way around, though I could not chant in his style. As long as one gets to be initiated or taught the mantra, we need to apply the correct pronounciation, WITH the guidance of a Guru. Any alterations or wrong prounciation of any mantra especially bija mantras can bring disaster. Sincerely R. Kasthuri Rangan -- pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h www : http://www.ambaa.org/ Contact: help / Ganapathy --- Vijaya " Jai Bhavani " - - - - " Jai Sri Lalitha Maha Maha Tripura Sundari " " Sarvam Shakti Mayam Jagath " Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Dear devotees, In tamil too, there seem to be some difference in the pronounciation of some bheeja manthras. In some writings of Siddhas, 'aIm', is referred as 'aiyum', klEm is referred to as'kiliyum'. Kandashashti kavacham also has these bheejas pronounced this way. Pronouncing it as one's Guru initiates us into these manthras ( and staying by it even if we know other schools of thot/ geography pronounce it differently, and knowing that this Bheeja is She Herself seems to be critical.) Have a query: In case a student after his study / sadhana / coming into contact with other enlightened people, changes a particular pronounciation of a manthra or say bheeja manthra, do the shastraas approve of this? Do shasthras allow a student to refer back to Guru about the change? Will this tentamount to Guru nindhana? Request the learned members to please advise the group. My apologies,if i have erred in raising this query. Bala sharanam. Gopi. --- "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk wrote: > --> > > "Va-bayor-abedaH" ! > _________ BT Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://bt..co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 HARI OM Please refer to HINDU DHARMA - Part Six : SIKSA -Chapter 11 Vedic Vocalisation and Regional Languages pages 301 to 308 for details of regional variations in pronounciation.HIS HOLINESS has concluded that Northern inotation have the sanction of the Siksa sastra. A close examination of the inotation of the people from the south , Malayalees. Tamalians, Andhras (again norh and south) the kannadigas will reveal the marked differences in inotaion and all have been accepted as normal variation due to influence / corruption of locals over the generations. Pranams to all Yours, G.Tulasi das. K Anand <carex wrote: Dear Sir Sri Chandrasekarendra Saraswati of Kanchimutt has addressed this issue in his book called Hindu Dharma which is extracted from Deivathin kural. There is a separate chapter dedicated to this issue of difference in pronunciation of vedic terms in various regions of India. I dont recollect the name of the chapter. sorry. Regards anand K - V. Krishnamurthy To: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:10 PM Re: Shring or Shrim > , "ramki61" wrote: > > Pranams, > > Yes It is correct but in the eastern part of india there is a > > tendency to pronounce the Kleem as kleeng, Hrim as Hring. Even > while > > chanting vedic mantras especially in the shukla veda in the north > the > > word purusha is pronounced prukha and Yat as jat etc., I think > even > > Panini has mentioned about the pronounciation aspect of people in > > different part of the country. I think learned scholars in the > group > > such as Prof. Krishnamoorthy can give better reasoning for such > > difference in the pronounciation. > > ramakrishnan > > Namaste Ramakrishnan -ji > > Sorry. I do not know anything about the origins of the difference in > pronunciation of these bija-mantras. But I would like to know, > certainly. > > PraNAms to all devotees of Mother Goddess. > profvk > > > -- > pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH > sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . > svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM > tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h > > www : http://www.ambaa.org/ > Contact: help > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your > > > -- pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h www : http://www.ambaa.org/ Contact: help / Your BT Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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