Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Dear friends, The expressions made here are purely of the author but by any one. A lot of discussions were going on about pronuncing mantras.People say, if you pronunce wrongly you will die or will create some problems.Can we spare our thoughts on what is right and wrong? If you say that one form of pronunciation is right, some people at some location say that is wrong and the way they pronunce is right. So my dear friends, whatever our guru has given or said, we will pronunce the mantras in that way. Who is then a guru? Guru is the enlighted soul.Guru=GOD. If you have learnt from your directly, you should follow the way it is said and regularly check with him whether you pronunce correctly(as said by guru). Pure love is important even when chanting mantras.Concentrate on the love but anything.Don't think of the results-Do all your prayers to praise the deity and give all your results(whether it be good or bad-"Kugyadhi kugiya koopthathri thavam......." it is for her). She will accept the love. Follow the way your GURU HAS SAID.Inadvertently if you are doing some mistakes, you may not be knowing that.Leave the acceptance to her. The great GODDESS will accept your love. If you are not convinced with the above, pls. answer my doubts: a) Where did you get the rules of pronunciation? b) If some sage has given, give a thought whether you have heard it from the sage directly or you read from books? c) if from books, how can we be sure of the script written in it. What surity is there for the way of pronuncing said in that is without mistakes or printing mistakes? If you go indepth, you will come to know the truth. Your comments are welcomed. Chokks. ymoharir <ymoharir wrote: Dear millindala: You are absolutely correct: This was precisely expressed in the paNiniiya shikshaa as well - ankshara.n hataayuShya.m visvara.m vyadhipiiDitam | akshataa shastraruupena vajra.m patati mastake || Meaning - Deleting the letters from mantra (pertaining to the alteration of the root verb)results in death and incorrect svra alters the meaning of mantra. Thus use of the mantrita akshataa falls on the yajamaana as vajra on his own head. Mantra is recitation of the meaning and not the mechanical recitation of some words. that is why patNajalamunii explains the the word "japa" as - tajjapastadarthabhaavanam || sammdhipaada 1.28 Meaning - Repeating of the bhavana expressed in the mantra is known as japa. It is also interesting to know the defination of mantra itself - ma.ntraaH mananaata || This recommends us to do the "manana". Thus mantraa is the one that we do "manana". Another definition is - mananaata traayata iti na.ntraH A recitation of that keeps us afloat and does not let us drown. Hope this is helpful. Regards, Dr. Yadu , "millindala" wrote: > Some say that if a mantra is chanted without understanding its > meaning, there will be no/least favorable results? This would imply > that a mantra chanted in the wrong/distorted form should also have > no/least damaging effects (unless a wrong meaning is internalized by > the sadhaka in the process). > > Kindly correct me if there is any mistake in this reasoning. > > Thanks, > mahesh-- > > > , "Satish Arigela" > wrote: > > , ganapathy = = vijaya > > wrote: > > > -- pradiipajvaalaabhirdivasakaraniiraajanavidhiH sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa . svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h www : http://www.ambaa.org/ Contact: help India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Dear All: Just small additions to what Respected Chokka has already said: The real purpose is transfer of useful knowledge. Therefore, one needs to understand what is being said by the GURU. It is always the duty of the listener to make sure that he/she has understood what has been said. If in "GURU's" Language of "GREEN" means "RED" that is OK as long as one understands and establishes such equivalence. Hindolam (Karnataka Music) = "Malkauns (Hindistani Music). Either you can learn it and come to such understanding or start with such understanding. It is all up to you and you alone as a student. Ultimately, if you do not know what you say, then what you say has no meaning. Otherwise it becomes an academic exercise of futility. All it gives is a sense of falls pride and attachments to meaningless rituals. This has been expressed by Saint J~nayshvara and Saint Raamadaasa. Thank you. Dr. Yadu , "Balakrishnan Shankar" <balakrishnan_sh@h...> wrote: > Dear Chokkalingam, > > Thank you for this very apt answer. I too think that without obtaining a > mantra from a SatGuru and without Love, it is better not to adopt > bijaksharas for chanting. Thank you for the apt comment that the Guru is a > an enlightened soul, beyond ego and ignorance and that Guru= God. Withot an > enlightened soul's guidance, it is almost impossible for an ignorant jiva to > attain the Lord . In the case of some rare Mahatmas this may be possible. > > bala > > > > >chokkalingam rm <mrchokku> > > > > > >CC: ashokca@e..., v.vk@v... > > Pronuncing Manthras > >Thu, 26 Feb 2004 04:44:05 +0000 (GMT) > > > >Dear friends, > >The expressions made here are purely of the author but by any one. A lot of > >discussions were going on about pronuncing mantras.People say, if you > >pronunce wrongly you will die or will create some problems.Can we spare our > >thoughts on what is right and wrong? > > > >If you say that one form of pronunciation is right, some people at some > >location say that is wrong and the way they pronunce is right. So my dear > >friends, whatever our guru has given or said, we will pronunce the mantras > >in that way. Who is then a guru? Guru is the enlighted soul.Guru=GOD. If > >you have learnt from your directly, you should follow the way it is said > >and regularly check with him whether you pronunce correctly(as said by > >guru). > > > >Pure love is important even when chanting mantras.Concentrate on the love > >but anything.Don't think of the results-Do all your prayers to praise the > >deity and give all your results(whether it be good or bad- "Kugyadhi kugiya > >koopthathri thavam......." it is for her). She will accept the love. Follow > >the way your GURU HAS SAID.Inadvertently if you are doing some mistakes, > >you may not be knowing that.Leave the acceptance to her. The great GODDESS > >will accept your love. > > > >If you are not convinced with the above, pls. answer my doubts: > >a) Where did you get the rules of pronunciation? > >b) If some sage has given, give a thought whether you have heard it from > >the sage directly or you read from books? > >c) if from books, how can we be sure of the script written in it. What > >surity is there for the way of pronuncing said in that is without mistakes > >or printing mistakes? > >If you go indepth, you will come to know the truth. > >Your comments are welcomed. > > > >Chokks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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