Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 To all respectable devotees of sri maatha In south Gayathi Mantra is chanted only by men and particularly after brahma upadesam. Whereas in north india even ladies and kids (even before brahma upadesam) chant this mantra. can anyone tell why is this practive prevailant over our country. Mangala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 In addition to the quotation posted by Sri Ganapathy. Here is my brief 2c. I am trying to present the views of both sides (with the little I know). 1) gAyatrI is a veda mantra and all the rules that apply to veda mantra apply to gAyatrI (also known as sAvitrI mantra). 2) Whether woman can chant veda-s or not is a issue that is contested these days. Traditional maTha-s of all the three major sampradaya-s say no. And their view is the one that is/was practised for the last two thousand years. Considering the faith and purity with tradition is followed; it is hard to contest that they might have changed the rules sometime in the last thousand years. 3) There is no clear "why". I have heard few reasons a) Due to impurity associated with monthly cycle b) Things such a child bearing and rearing are by itself huge tasks which will give no no time and etc. c) Effect of mantra-s such as making them less fertile etc. All this is hearsay. Now on the contrary: a) There are verses in veda; whose R^ishhi are a females. If a woman can be a mantra drashhTa (seer) and spell out a mantra to be used by others. Then it is meaningless to say woman can not chant veda-s. b) There different new traditions that squarely disagree with the restrictions. For instance, Ramakrishna Mission and Aurobindo's school. Again you can see the following links which quote a verse from shruti that says veda-s are OPEN to all. http://www.vedah.com/org/literature/sandhyaMantras/whoMay.asp http://www.vedah.com/org/literature/yajurVeda/knowledge4All.asp c) Unless one produces an authentic verse from shruti itself which *directly* says (not just the use of masculine gender) that women cannot chant veda-s; it is difficult to convince people otherwise. d) Also, if one goes through the smriti books such as vaidyanAtha diixitiyam etc, you will see that we bend and ignore many many rules, even on simple things such as brahmaNa-s shaving their face by themselves etc. Hence, why not one more! Why being male chauvinistic in breaking rules? -- One point you say is not fully correct. Even in Northern parts of India there are traditional brahmaNa-s who hold that women cannot chant veda-s. Hence, I think you can not generalize like that. What can you do? ----------------- 1) Best is to find a teacher who will teach you or permit you to learn veda-s or chant gAyatrI. There are quite a few who do that. Then the responsibility belongs to the teacher. If someone questions you; you can always question them back for a proof and give your counter proof. 2) If anything in puraaNa is accessible to all. Then gAyAtrI mantra is quite well discussed in Book-12 of devii bhagavata puraaNa. Hence you may access it via that puraaNa. (I am not sure about this argument, as I have to reread Book 12 to see if it have any special clauses etc.) 3) A simpler thing would be just to stick to the rules of tradition your family follows. This is status quo. An interesting note: -------------------- Few years ago, Indian government published gAyatrI mantra on greeting card and mailed it to all (for deepavali). And DK (Dravidar Kazhagam) filed a law suit against it and supreme court decided that this mantra is an Universal Prayer and does NOT break the secular thread of the Nation. And the Government is not at fault. I think, even though for wrong reasons, DK's position that gAyatrI mantra cannot be printed on a greeting card for mass tribution would have been favored by traditional scholars. Sometimes, life gets interesting, you get a defense for dharma from unexpected quarters. My 2c. Needless to say, I am quite ignorant and could be wrong. In arguments, I have taken both sides of the issues and was equally ineffective on either side :-)) Ravi , mangala iyer <lilakku97> wrote: > To all respectable devotees of sri maatha > > In south Gayathi Mantra is chanted only by men and > particularly after brahma upadesam. Whereas in north > india even ladies and kids (even before brahma > upadesam) chant this mantra. > > can anyone tell why is this practive prevailant over > our country. > > Mangala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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