Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Pranams. We see frequently mails querying whether a Guru is needed for LS or SL or DM.parayana. Apart from the group’s mail I also receive few private mails seeking clarification and I reply that I am not competent to advice on these matters due to the limitation of my experience. (As I cant think in any other way than my own training). But at the same time the experience as per TRADITIONS From a GURU is what that distinguishes between a BELIEF and FAITH, which is the subject matter of this mail. Faith is one of the greatest spiritual gifts. The mere collecting of facts from books or from other external sources from the net or groups is not enough to give us genuine faith . Our words never carry any weight and it amounts to a mere belief. Belief comes from reasoning and arguments. We hear something, which appeals to us, we make a careful analysis on it reflect on it and decide that we may believe it. By another word someone more powerful in arguments and reasoning can create a doubt in our mind and make us waver again. This process is endless without any benefits. To have faith in the scriptures and saviors is a fundamental teaching of every religion and in our great Santana Dharma we need not believe in the past saviors unseen -- hundreds of years back but only repose faith in the saviors around you and called as “guru dev”. But one may ask why should I have faith in the Guru who is after all a human being like me. The answer could be that we are too weak to discover the truth of Ambaa Om by ourselves due to constant thought of our mind with the physical body.This strength is not great enough and a guru with his Cosmic mind through Tapsya can matter a lot. Gurus are God Men (despite of their human weaknesses should they have one ) help us with the spiritual charge through the Beeja mantras initiated and if we have faith in them we actually see the Truth. It is very likely a sishya may see the truth much earlier than the Guru himself if his faith is strong and goes by the guru’s words. Therefore a Guru cannot be understood as an ordinary human being. Our scriptures talk of the Supreme as Guru and every Guru is also supreme if we have faith in scriptures. Gurus guide us in dogmas, doctrines, ceremonies and rituals that help us in realization of truth upon which our faith must rest. So long as we follow these with the right spirit we have true faith, when however we forget the real aim of these outer observances and go through them in a mechanical fashion it becomes superstition and reap no benefit. The very modesty with which a sishya approaches a Guru and prostrates is the first effort he makes to surrender or suppress his Ego to which one is constantly attached. In short belief is prone to doubts and is wasteful and destructive while faith is constructive, as with faith we can accomplish anything, as the road of faith through a Guru is definite and positive. Faith is not to be equated with ignorance and uneducated -- as if the person has no power to investigate for themselves. Faith through a guru has lead many and continues to lead to unfold the Truth. May I remind the devotees the DM shloka “ Ya Devi Sarva Bhutheshu Shraddha Rupena Samsthitha. “ As per Sri Vidya Upasana should the Guru's words override scriptures then Guru's word becomes the scriptures. That is the power of Guru and faith on the guru. Ganapathy Ganapathy --- Vijaya " Jai Bhavani " New and Improved Mail - Send 10MB messages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Dear Sri. Ganapathyji, Namaskarams. "Golden Words" would perhaps be more apt to describe your following message. As Guru Gita declares "na guroradhikam na guroradhikam". If one is blessed with a SatGuru, then all other things including stutis, samskaras don't even matter - "nimiShArdhArdha pAdadva yad vAkhyAt vimucyate | svAtmAnam svaramAdatte tasmai shrI gurave namaH ||" But it is also clear that one must be really providential to get a SatGuru. In this context, it may be interesting to see contrasting views as to which precedes what: 1. In Guru Gita, Lord Shiva declares : veda shAstra purANAni itihAsAdikAni ca | mantra yantra vidyAdIni mohanoccATanAdikam || shaiva shAktA .a gamAdIni hyanye ca bahavo matAH | apabraMshAH samastAnAm jIvAnam bhrAnta cetasam || japas tapo vRRitam tIrtham yaGYo dAnam tathaiva ca | guru tattvam aviGYAya sarvaM vyartham bhavet priye || (Things like Vedas, Shastras, Puranas, Agamas, Mantras, Yantras, Vidyas etc. and religions like Shaivism, ShAktam etc. will only confuse people. All practices like Japam, Tapas, Vratas etc. are all waste without Guru Tattva). 2. There is another famous Tamil poem by ThirumUlar (I hope I am right about the source) which says: mUrti talam tIrtham murayay todanginorkku oru vArtai cola oru saRguru vAykkum parAparame | (For people who studiously practice mUrti (vigraha aradhana), talam (pilgrimage), tIrtham (bathing in sacred waters) etc., a SatGuru will appear to say a "word". In other words, the effect these practices is attaining a SatGuru). Thanks & Regards, Murali , ganapathy = = vijaya <srividya101> wrote: > > Pranams. > > > > We see frequently mails querying whether a Guru is needed for LS or SL or DM.parayana. Apart from the group's mail I also receive few private mails seeking clarification and I reply that I am not competent to advice on these matters due to the limitation of my experience. (As I cant think in any other way than my own training). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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