Guest guest Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 A) Contributed by Ramesh Srinivasan. Send your comments and corrections to (list). http://www.ambaa.org/pdf/annapUrNA_stotram.pdf B) Contributed by Arun Naik. Please send your comments and suggestion to author himself (arun_k_naik). If the stotra you would like to discuss is on ambaa or shiva, please post it to the list also. http://www.ambaa.org/pdf/stotra_sindhu.pdf A request to both authors -- Please inlcude the credits, who typeset it, who translated it, etc in the document itself when you find time. If it is has no copyright, please explicitly say so. Please kamakshI suprabhAtam in the same directory for a sample. http://www.ambaa.org/pdf/kamaxi_suprabhatam.pdf -- ambaa.org is up, however it is bit outdated (as I did not take any backups in the recent past). I am yet setup passwords of kritis, download, and shaivam.ambaa.org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Namaste Shri Ramesh Srinivasanji and Shri Raviji. I set aside all my work to swim in this ocean of nectar called AnnapUrNastavam! What a brilliant translation Srinivasanji! May Ma bless you boundlessly for this great endeavour and offering! Another good translation is available at the following site: http://www.kamakoti.org/shlokas/kshlok13.htm where the order of verses is slightly different, i.e. AdikSAnta… appears before urvI sarvajaneshvarI.... I may be carrying coal to Newcastle. Yet may I humbly point out the following for your consideration? Verse 1: PratyakSamAhEshvari - Since pratyakSa is evident, can't we not say She is evident everywhere to discerning eyes? Can the meaning of `ignorance' be added to ghOra? Can't we assume the name KAshIpurAdhIshvari to mean kAshIpurAdIshvarsya Ishvari? Then, She even overlords Lord Shiva, who, as we see in Soundarya Lahari, cannot even move without Her! Verse 2: The text that I chant everyday has kAshmIragaruvAsitAngarucirE in the place of kAshmIrAgaruvAsitArucikari. I don't remember where I byhearted it from. However, the term has always baffled me as to its real import. Will you kindly advise if it can be interpreted? Verse 3: Can the ripUs (enemies) be listed as those that obstruct a seeker's sAdhana? Can't we read the meaning of `the bestower of dharmArtakAmamOkSa' for sarvaishvaryasamastavAncitakari? Verse 4: It may be presumptuous for me to say this, as I don't have a dictionary right in hand to support my contention. Rightly or wrongly, I have always taken kandara to mean something like an axis or root in a manner similar to kanda. Can we accept that meaning? I see KailAsa standing for the whole universe overlording and sitting on top of which is Lord Shiva. If Mother is then the axis of Kailasa, as She is sadAshivakudumbini or sadAshivagrihEshwari, She verily becomes the root and support for Shiva too as we see in Soundarya Lahari. Any thoughts in this direction? Can such a meaning be entertained? Why don't we relate OmkArabIjakSari to MAndUkya? She is then turIyA pervading wakefulness, dreaming and deep sleep. Verse 5: VAhanakari impliles that She supports, pervades and *rides on* all that is visible and invisible. She reaches us riding on them through all the evident vibhUtis but we don't notice Her. My text has LIlAnAtakasUtrabhEdanakari for LIlAnatakasUtrakhElanakari. I think bhEdana fits more with the meaning than khElana, as, when the magical drama is `seen through' or when the puppet strings are severed, what results is Realization (that all this was a mere puppet drama) and that is shrIvishvEsamanahprasAdanam in the name that immediately follows! Verse 6: NityAnnadAnesvari – nityA being permanent, this name can also mean the bestower of the alm of immortality and that meaning vibes well with the name SakSAnmOkSakari which immediately follows. Verse 7: AdikSAntasamastavarnanakari – She is vAk or vAgdEvata. My text has trijalEshvari for trijanEshvari. Any thoughts? Again in my text, mOkshadvArakavAtapAtanakari appears for svargadvArakavAtapAtanakari. Don't you think the former is better, as She, as mAyA, covers the gate to mOkSa? Verse 8: Can't sadAshubhakari mean the bestower of eternal happiness, which is Ananda of sat-chit-Ananda? Verse 12: svadeshO bhuvanatrayam – My home is verily wherever I am in wakefulness, dream or deep sleep. In Malayalam we say `vINEtam viSnulOkam' (Wherever I fall, that is viSnulOka!). These are just some thoughts placed on Her Lotus Feet. PraNAms. Madathil Nair _______________________ , "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <ravi@a...> wrote: > A) Contributed by Ramesh Srinivasan. Send your comments and corrections to > (list). > > http://www.ambaa.org/pdf/annapUrNA_stotram.pdf > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Namaste, , "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair> wrote: > Verse 1: > PratyakSamAhEshvari - Since pratyakSa is evident, can't we not say > She is evident everywhere to discerning eyes? > Can the meaning of `ignorance' be added to ghOra? > Can't we assume the name KAshIpurAdhIshvari to mean > kAshIpurAdIshvarsya Ishvari? Then, She even overlords Lord Shiva, > who, as we see in Soundarya Lahari, cannot even move without Her! It is said that Shiva and Shakti are the same as the Moon and Moon- light. So there is nothing like Devi having lordship over Shiva or Shiva having lordship over Devi. All this talk about Shiva not being able to even move is just to stress the importance of worshipping Devi. One may find in Shiva stotras statements saying that He is praised by Vishnu/Narayana and Vishnu bhagavan being praised by Shiva in stotras eulogising Vishnu. It is a common procedure adopted in all devata stotras and hence one need not pay too much attention to such statements. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 , "Satish Raja Arigela" <satisharigela> wrote: > Namaste, > > , "Madathil Rajendran Nair" > <madathilnair> wrote: > > Verse 1: > > PratyakSamAhEshvari - Since pratyakSa is evident, can't we not say > > She is evident everywhere to discerning eyes? > > Can the meaning of `ignorance' be added to ghOra? > > Can't we assume the name KAshIpurAdhIshvari to mean > > kAshIpurAdIshvarsya Ishvari? Then, She even overlords Lord Shiva, > > who, as we see in Soundarya Lahari, cannot even move without Her! > > It is said that Shiva and Shakti are the same as the Moon and Moon- > light. So there is nothing like Devi having lordship over Shiva or > Shiva having lordship over Devi. All this talk about Shiva not being > able to even move is just to stress the importance of worshipping > Devi. One may find in Shiva stotras statements saying that He is > praised by Vishnu/Narayana and Vishnu bhagavan being praised by > Shiva in stotras eulogising Vishnu. It is a common procedure adopted > in all devata stotras and hence one need not pay too much attention > to such statements. > > Regards That is true ... in technical terms, it is called 'arthavaada'. Arthavaada is usually not to be taken literally; the true devotee will discern that, but will happily also nod with approval when he reads/hears this statement because of the spurt of devotion it creates in him for that diety. And that is the extent to which these statements must be taken... inclucating devotion. If they are taken literally, then that's taking it too far, and we might risk becoming a fundamentalist! Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Namaste Satishji. As an advaitin, I am in full agreement with what you have stated. However, we are discussing a Devi stOtram here. Hence, my inclination to extol Her a la Soundarya Lahari. Thanks and praNAms. Madathil Nair ______________ , "Satish Raja Arigela" <satisharigela> wrote: ..........> It is said that Shiva and Shakti are the same as the Moon and Moon- > light. So there is nothing like Devi having lordship over Shiva or > Shiva having lordship over Devi. All this talk about Shiva not being > able to even move is just to stress the importance of worshipping > Devi. One may find in Shiva stotras statements saying that He is > praised by Vishnu/Narayana and Vishnu bhagavan being praised by > Shiva in stotras eulogising Vishnu. It is a common procedure adopted > in all devata stotras and hence one need not pay too much attention > to such statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 , "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair> wrote: > Verse 4: > > It may be presumptuous for me to say this, as I don't have a > dictionary right in hand to support my contention. Rightly or > wrongly, I have always taken kandara to mean something like an axis > or root in a manner similar to kanda. Can we accept that meaning? I > see KailAsa standing for the whole universe overlording and sitting > on top of which is Lord Shiva. If Mother is then the axis of > Kailasa, as She is sadAshivakudumbini or sadAshivagrihEshwari, She > verily becomes the root and support for Shiva too as we see in > Soundarya Lahari. Any thoughts in this direction? Can such a > meaning be entertained? * kandarA means cave. kanda means root. You can compare this with names hrIN^kAra-kanda-aN^kurikA and hrIN^kAra-kandarAsimhI. * kailasAchala can be taken as hrIm.h also. It is kind of coded in it as sa (with) ka+(e)+i+la in the peak (achala) -- that is hrIm implying the shrIvidya mantra. This would make this name same as hrIN^kAra-kandarAlayakarI. [i have not read this interpretation anywhere, it just came to my mind when I was thinking about this name, hence could be a stretch and incorrect]. Potentially, the names can yield many results, it depends on how deep we explore it. Comparing with other works (such as LT sarva bhUShaNa bhUShitA, ekaishvaryapradAyinI, etc.) will also throw a lot of interesting insights into this. Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Namaste Raviji. That is great thinking and, in fact, the right way meditation on Her divine names is to be done! Don't ever think that you have stretched it or are incorrect. In one stroke, you have related it all to the great Trishati and Sahasra Namavali. This way of contemplation on the names throws up a whole world of enlightenment and should be seriously and assiduously pursused by all devotees irrespective of whether they are dwaitins or advaitins. Although such beautiful insights have occurred to me off and on during contemplation rather sporadically and mostly by chance, I now think that I should assimilate your invaluable tip to a systematic methodology in order to understand and recognize Her in everything and everywhere. Thanks and PraNAms. Madathil Nair _______________ , "MSR" <miinalochanii> wrote: > , "Madathil Rajendran Nair" ...............> > * kandarA means cave. kanda means root. You can compare this with > names hrIN^kAra-kanda-aN^kurikA and hrIN^kAra-kandarAsimhI. > > * kailasAchala can be taken as hrIm.h also. It is kind of coded in it > as sa (with) ka+(e)+i+la in the peak (achala) -- that is hrIm implying > the shrIvidya mantra. This would make this name same as > hrIN^kAra-kandarAlayakarI. [i have not read this interpretation > anywhere, it just came to my mind when I was thinking about this name, > hence could be a stretch and incorrect]. > > Potentially, the names can yield many results, it depends on how deep > we explore it. Comparing with other works (such as LT sarva bhUShaNa > bhUShitA, ekaishvaryapradAyinI, etc.) will also throw a lot of > interesting insights into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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