Is Shiva – Vishnu – Ambaa different ?

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Namasthe

 

Hats off for your deep faith in Mother. You are correct.In this connection I

recall an anecdote of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. There was a brahmin

Bhagavadottama doing all time Ramanama and praises its glory to all. His village

is an island.Daily a Milk woman used to supply milk for his daily puja in time.

One day he could not do his puja in time and it has become too late and the milk

woman came late with milk. He was very angry and abused her and asked the reason

for delay. She told that due to heavy rain, she could not cross the river which

is in spate. after the water level came down she could

cross and come. At once he shouted at her can u not have faith in Rama and

repeat his manthra and cross the river. She was wonder struck and with so much

anxiety she asked is it true. He said yes simply tell his nama and cross the

river. She said OK and promised that she would come tommorrow in time. Next day

also rain poured heavily and the water level is in its brim.

She closed her eyes and Rama nama in her lips and crossed and went in time. The

Bhagavather was shocked to see her in time and questioned her.

She said I have done as per your command.He did not believe it.She said if you

wish u can also do that. He followed her and saw that she crossed the river in

no time and she was telling him to do so.When she turned back and saw him

keeping hold his dhothi up and enquired him why he should bother

about his dhothi.He was always with fear and drowned in the river.

Is it an exageration of Rama nama or is it blind faith or is it false.

Mr. Reddy. I bow to your ardent faith in Mother.

yours with regards

kaushik(s.krishnamoorthy)

 

Prasada Reddy <prasada.reddy wrote:

 

, "satisharigela" <satisharigela>

wrote:

> All the talk about sharabheshvara and mArtANDa bhairava protecting

> the devotees without having to invoke them is just exaggeration.

> While it can be read for amusement and entertainment, I think one

> should not read too much and derive devata hierarchies from such

> shloka-s.

>

> parA shAmbhavyai namaH

>

> Best regards

 

WHY they(sharabheshvara and mArtANDa bhairava) won't protect you?

.....WHY?

When you offered yourself to her, trusting only HER and praising(stuti

- LSN) her because your innerself is HER indeed.

 

'I' cannot conclude anything like this about my realself, may be my

this body's limited buddhi or manas may 'incline' towards this faulted

conclusion under false guidances for timebeing.

But when you see "unmesha nimisha utpanna vipanna bhuvanaLiH" as your

own self and sharabheshvara and marthAnDa bhairavas are being some

aspects of this self, itself. How the heck one can conclude like when

you chant HER mala mantra, these two aspects(sharabheshvara and

mArtANDa bhairava) still won't protect the body bearing that self.

 

I believe it all depends on how you approach them with your open mind

and intellegence. If you yourself shut doors on them, then how can we

expect them to protect you?

 

In other words, let us DARE NOT reduce/delete the essence of the

things that are told in purva bhaga, LS and vuttara bahaga or anywhere

else in our scriptures until unless you got good experience to prove

it otherwise,And you are sure this experience of yours can only be

attributed to that verse only but not to your prarabda karma phala etc

etc.

 

Om shrI mAtrE namaha Om.

 

Prasada.

--

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sudhaasuuteshcandropalajalalavairarghyaracanaa .

svakiiyairambhobhiH salilanidhisauhityakaraNaM

tvadiiyaabhirvaagbhistava janani vaacaaM stutiriyam.h

 

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Namasthe.

 

Parabrahman is ONE by what ever name called.

 

Devotees of either Shiva -- Vishnu or Ambaa due to Maya, who claim superior of

one over other can be compared to the story of 6 blind men who wanted to know

What an elephant looked like and when they described their own experience to the

other, each one claimed that were right in their judgment over others. ( recall

the story the first blind man touching the tail -- felt that it was like a snake

and the second blind man touching the body described it as a massive banian tree

etc ).

 

It would be better to stick to the explanations of LS scripture and the Bhasyam

of our Masters instead of arguing with our personal views. These explanations of

our Masters have come out as a result of intense Tapasya -- Upasana and is a

result of their intelligence of their heart rather than the intelligence of the

Mind. This is the difference between our Masters and us.

 

If LS is superior as per the decalaration of LS itself, we should respect and

be guided by the proclamation instead of comparing it with any other scripture,

as the focus of this group is clearly spelt out. Any discussion not accepting

what is decalred would only mislead some members in their beliefs.

 

In Sri Vidya Pujas one could go near Ambaa only after doing aradhana to four

other Vedic forms of Supreme in Sanathana Dharma Viz Maha Ganapathy - Aaditya --

Maha Vishnu and Shamba Parameshwara in that order. This only adequately confirms

that it is SHE the ONLY ONE , who is as other forms. This is greatness of Ambaa

upasana.

 

( When I say this I restrict it to my own field of devotion and would not rather

get involved into other Upasanas. )

 

Ganapathy

 

satisharigela <satisharigela wrote:

 

, "Prasada Reddy" <prasada.reddy@g...>

wrote:

> > All the talk about sharabheshvara and mArtANDa bhairava

>>protecting

> > the devotees without having to invoke them is just exaggeration.

> WHY they(sharabheshvara and mArtANDa bhairava) won't protect you?

> ....WHY?

 

There is a some difference between the above two statments. The

difference will be clear if you look at the context in which I wrote

that. So read the two messages again till you understand.

> How the heck one can conclude like when

> you chant HER mala mantra, these two aspects(sharabheshvara and

> mArtANDa bhairava) still won't protect the body bearing that self.

 

Ever wondered why there are elaborate manuals and pUja paddhati-s to

invoke sharabeshvara, pratya~Ngira and bhairava?

 

Why do you think shrividya upAsaka-s receive mantras of

sharabheshvara and pratya~Ngira differently and use those mantras

for various purposes?

 

Why are bhaktas not using LS to invoke them? Do you intend to say

that all of these upAsaka-s have been fools till now?

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ganapathy --- Vijaya

 

" Jai Bhavani "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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To the moderator,

 

we have been through the following topics umpteen

number of times in one form or the other

1. qualifications for chanting LS

2. Siva-Visnu-Ambaa different or not

3. Requirement for a Guru

 

i guess these questions are open ended and will not

reach a conclusion except direct perception

 

The FAQ in this site does a good job explaining this

and so does a search of the previous postings.

 

regards

vishwanathan

 

--- Prasada Reddy <prasada.reddy wrote:

> Dear bhaktAs,

> PraNAmyaham.

>

> My question not just related to Lord MArtAnDa

> bhairava or

> sharabhEshvara or any other god inlcuding srI mAtA,

> but to any god ...

>

> Do we always NEED to INVOKE the gods in order to get

> protected by them?

>

> Om shrI mAtrE namha Om.

>

> Prasada.

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