nappinnai - 2

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Hello,

 

 

Doesn't "aayar" refer to the cowherd tribe to which Yashoda/Nandagopan

belonged? I always thought so due to the association between "Aayppadi"

and Krishna. If that is so, AandaaL cannot be the one referred to, she

being the daughter of Periyaazhwar, a brahmin. Infact, this reference

of Tirumangaiyazhwar seems to indicate that Nappinnai could be Radha!

 

 

aayar definitely refers to the cowherd tribe to which krishna belonged.

It has been a common practice for aazhwaars to assume themselves as

somebody close to krishna and write paasurams accordingly. they either

assume a girl, girl's mother,...etc. In thiruppavai, the whole scene is

set in aayarpaadi and she is one of the aayar girl. thirumaNGgai's

reference is to this particular character." maargazhith thiNGgaL.. cheer

malgum aaypaadi chelvach chirumIrgaaL", "naayaganaay ... aayar

chirumiyarOmukku.."

 

 

 

Also, what are the relative times in which Tirumangaiyazhwar and AandaaL

lived? Even if T. aazhwar is of a later period, would AandaaL have been

so famous a devotee by then that he would refer to her in his pasuram?

 

thirumaNGgai aazhwaar is supposed to be the last, i think. i am not very

sure. Actually when u talk of the aazhwaars, they are referred as

padhinmar ( 10 in number) as aaNdaaL became HIS consort and one other

aazhwaar( i think madhura kavi) sung only in praise of nammaazhwaar. so

aaNdaaL being HIS consort as well as an ordinary human being could have

been well known.

could somebody clarify the doubt? who exactly is the other aazhwaar who

sung only in praise of the other aazhwaar. there is another anecdote

too. only sri raNGgaNnaathar of sriraNGgam has the privelege of being

sung by all the 10 aazhwaars( padhinmar paadiya perumaaL) nobody else

has. one aazhwaar has sung only on araNGgaNn ( araNGgaNnai paadum

vaayaal, maRRoru kuraNGgaNnai paada maattENn) is that kulasEkaran?

i lost touch and forgot so many such things.

 

viji

 

--

Vijayaraghavan T. R.

viji

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> thirumaNGgai aazhwaar is supposed to be the last, i think. i am not very

> sure. Actually when u talk of the aazhwaars, they are referred as

> padhinmar ( 10 in number) ...

 

Desikar refers to the aazhvaars as "navina-daSaavataaram", as 10

new incarnations propagated by the Lord for the benefit of the

world. These are incarnations in an inspirational sense -- the

paradox of the Lord singing through them in praise of Himself.

> ... as aaNdaaL became HIS consort and one other

> aazhwaar( i think madhura kavi) sung only in praise of nammaazhwaar. so

> aaNdaaL being HIS consort as well as an ordinary human being could have

> been well known.

> could somebody clarify the doubt?

 

Yes, you are right, madhurakavi aazhvaar is the one who sang only

in praise of his "lord of kurugoor", Nammazhvaar. You can find his

"kaNNi nuN sirutthaambu" on the Prabandham page

 

http://reality.sgi.com/employees/mani/prabandham.html

> who exactly is the other aazhwaar who

> sung only in praise of the other aazhwaar. there is another anecdote

> too. only sri raNGgaNnaathar of sriraNGgam has the privelege of being

> sung by all the 10 aazhwaars( padhinmar paadiya perumaaL) nobody else

> has. one aazhwaar has sung only on araNGgaNn ( araNGgaNnai paadum

> vaayaal, maRRoru kuraNGgaNnai paada maattENn) is that kulasEkaran?

> i lost touch and forgot so many such things.

 

thoNdar-adi-podi aazhvaar sang only in praise of ranganaathar.

Sri Kanchi P.B. Annangarachariar in one his upanyaasams says that

it appears that this aazhvaar literally knew of no other temple,

for even thiruppaaN aazhvaar, who only sang 10 paasurams, sang

two in praise of thiruvEngadam srinivaasar.

 

In fact, sri ranganaathar has been sung of by 11 of the aazhvaars

(including by convention aaNdaal), unmentioned only by sri madhurakavigaL.

> viji

> Vijayaraghavan T. R.

> viji

>

 

Yours,

Mani