Guest guest Posted May 31, 1995 Report Share Posted May 31, 1995 Hello, This has reference to badri's posting reg nNappiNnNnai2 badri wrote: nappinnai is not aaNdaaL. aaNdaaL herself refers to nappinnai in thiruppaavai on many occasions. That nappinnai is an adjective + the proper name pinnai is quite obvious from the mentioning of pinnai elsewhere in the prabandham (eg. pinnai maNaalan in periyaazhvaar, don't remember offhand the exact place). ------- Just because aaNdaaL refers to nappinnai, i dont think that way. we cannot conclude that she she wouldn't have referred herself. It should be viewed this way: the "bhavam" in which the author conveys something should be given utmost importance. The entire thiruppavai is set in the aayarpaadi backdrop. the author assumes herself as one of the aayar chiRumi. the self identity of the author- a pious brahmin girl, is not at all brought to light throughout the literary work. the author herself is one of the characters of the drama which is a separate identity not to be confused with the author who just gave the work to the world. the drama consisting of 30 paasurams, talk about calling the aayar girls early in the morning for praying krishna,...etc. one of the aayar girl is the author herself, the nNappiNnNnai who is aaNdaaL. when u look at the 18th paasuram, "unNdhu madha kaLiRRaNn Odaatha ..nNanNdha gOpaNn marumagaLE nNappiNnNnaay.." nNanNdhagOpaNn is krishNnaNn's father. the author who was madly in love with krishNa, and always dreams of marrying krishNa and becoming nNanNdhagOpaNn's marumagaL, just introduces herself as one of the aayar girl character and satisfies her. i think no other character fits in this particular context of nNanndhagOpaNn's marumagaL. Other than this, it has been in our family's practice to name the girls who were born in "pooram" nakshatram as nNappiNnNnai. ( thiruvaadip pooraththil chegaththuthuththaaL vaazhiyE) another anecdote comes to my mind regarding this. raamaanNujar who was an ardent devotee or even more than that of aaNdaaL, once was going along the streets of sriraNGgam on an early morning maargazhi day singing thiruppaavai. he was crossing periya nambi's house and was singing unNdhu mathagaLiRRaNn. when he was singing this particular line, " nNanNdhagOpaNn marumagaLE nNappiNnNnaai.." ,periya mnambi's daughter, "aththuzhaay" (tamil name for thuLasi) came out to draw kOlam in front of her house. raamaaNnujar who was all the while thinking of aaNdaaL immediately, overcome by the devotion to aaNdaaL, went near aththuzhaay and fell on her feet. then periya nambi came out and realised this and explained. ( i am 90% sure, it is periya nambi, if wrong pls let me know) viji -- Vijayaraghavan T. R. viji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 1995 Report Share Posted May 31, 1995 Triplicane Vijayaraghavan <viji wrote: * Hello, * This has reference to badri's posting reg nNappiNnNnai2 * badri wrote: * nappinnai is not aaNdaaL. aaNdaaL herself refers * to nappinnai in thiruppaavai on many occasions. [deleted] * Just because aaNdaaL refers to nappinnai, i dont think that way. [and some more arguments as well as anecdotes suggesting that nappinnai refers to aaNdaaL, deleted] * viji There is not much of an argument here. aazhvaarkaL as well as other poets well before aaNdaaL's time have mentioned pinnai in their copious works. Chronologically, paripaadal precedes the entire aazhvaar works and I suspect the same must be true of silappadhikaaram. As Dileepan mentioned clearly, both these ancient thamizh works mention pinnai. periyaazhvaar does, and he might have done that even before the birth of aaNdaaL. So aaNdaaL is not nappinnai. That said, aaNdaaL could have very well wanted to act the part of nappinnai. She does indeed consider herself as a gopika in aayarpaadi just as periyaazhvaar imagined himself to be yasOdhai. That does not make periyaazhvaar, a yasOdhai and likewise, aaNdaaL, a nappinnai. --badri ----------------- S.Badrinarayanan Graduate Student Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering Cornell University ----------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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