Guest guest Posted October 12, 1995 Report Share Posted October 12, 1995 Many of us may have thought about this, and please share with me as to what you feel. Lately, as I have been reading the bhagvad gita, I have been wondering what happens to humans or for that matter living things after death. What confuses me the most is that being a hindu, I believe in re-encarnation, and moksha. But on the other hand as a Computer Scientist and a Pre-med student I am unable to understand this concept. Hence I have been wondering for a while now as to what happens to people after they die. This may not be an appropriate topic in this group, but I felt since you have been talking about the Bhagvad gita, would be able to answer this question of mine. Your replies and answers are greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance. Manjula Vangipuram -- '`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`' IF YOU LOVE SOMETHING LET IT GO IF IT COMES BACK TO YOU IT WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE YOURS BUT IF IT DOES NOT COME BACK TO YOU IT WAS NEVER YOURS TO START WITH ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ (~._.~) (~,_,~) (~._.~) (~,_,~) (~._.~) (~,_,~) (~._.~) (~,_,~) _{ Y }_ _{ Y }_ _{ Y }_ _{ Y }_ _{ Y }_ _{ Y }_ _{ Y }_ _{ Y }_ ()_~~~_()()_~~~_()()_~~~_()()_~~~_()()_~~~_()()_~~~_()()_~~~_()()_~~~_() (_)-(_) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) ,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*'`'*,.,*`'`*,.,*'`'*,.,*`'`*,.,*`'`*,.,*`'`*,.,*'`'*,., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 1995 Report Share Posted October 13, 1995 I guess we all go through the wondering process. The questions evolve over time and change but the wondering process probably never ceases. Religion and science by themselves are not incompatible. Hindu Dharma and the concept of Moksha take over where science leaves off. Science has yet to find a microscope that can show us what a soul looks like. If we carefully examine the evidence presented by modern science it will be obvious that nothing is proved beyond a reasonable doubt. All of modern acceoted theories center around accepting evidence that support the evidence and ignoring evidence that contradict those theories. Example The sphinx of Egypt is believed to have been built around 4,500 years ago by a pharaoh of Egypt, Howver Geologists have found that the sphinx has been eroded by water. The last time there was sufficient rainfall to have caused that much of erosion was 9,000 years ago. By this estimate the Sphinx should be about 9,500 years old, older than the present ancient Egyptians. Not much is known about any civilization that existed then and how they built such a monument or moved it to where it is now. But is this evidence accepted by scientists? No, because it raises more questions than they have answers to. Similarly man, by today's reckoning, has existed for about seven thousand years or so. But there is an entire book called Forbidden Archeology that shows evidence of man and use of weapons between seven and 55 million years ago. Accepting this as evidence would mean blowing Darwin's theory to smithereens. On the otherhand the little research that has been done based on religious texts has borne evidence. Excavations in ancient Greece has verified a lot of the details given in the Iliad. More than one incident in the bible has been confirmed by archeologists. Recently they discovered the body of Caiaphus (I am not sure of the spelling) the man that convicted Jesus. Most of the research done in India by foreigners centered around trying to disprove our scriptures. However in the last decade the ancient city of Dwaraka was discovered under the sea. Not only was the city discovered but also Mudras that bear the exact description given in the Mahabharata. Given the resources a lot more can be excavated based on our epics. Not only do Eastern religions believe in reincarnation, but Christianity also did till the time of Pope Justinian in the middle ages. The bible itself mentions that an ancient saint named Elijah was reborn during the time of Jesus as St. John Baptist. There is an element of commonality in the concept of salvation among all the world's major religions. If we read the Geeta we find answers to all questions that science is not able to answer. We also find that Shri Krishna is God Almighty that owns and controls everything including us. By praying to Him we will find the Acharya(s) through whom all our questions will eventually get answered. We will understand that our purpose is to serve Shri Krishna by serving His devotees. This includes our immediate family and all people that we have an opportunity to serve. Even the Guru serves His disciples by teaching them. Service has nothing to do with whether one is in a superior position or inferior position to us. Service can also mean taking a tough disciplinary stand (e.g with children). When this service attitude becomes all encompassing and is not interrupted by time, place or circumstances one is said to have attained Moksha. Jaganath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 1995 Report Share Posted October 13, 1995 Jaganath said: >>>>Similarly man, by today's reckoning, has existed for about seven thousand years or so. But there is an entire book called Forbidden Archeology that shows evidence of man and use of weapons between seven and 55 million years ago. Accepting this as evidence would mean blowing Darwin's theory to smithereens.<<<< Accepting this evidence would be in favor of Darwin's theory as well as the Hindu (jain-Buddhist) belief. What it throws out is the traditional Christian belief. Hinduism and many other Indic religions believe in reincaranatio. Christianity believes in resurrection. All buried dead will wake up from their grave at the return of Jesus. Jesus will judge the resurrected people and decide on their eternity in paradise or in a burning hell. This resurrection will not apply to those who were not buried at the time of their death. Ofcourse those were already burnt and that's that according to Christian belief. This is the reason why burial is so sacred and is basic to Christian solvation. Scientists and the soul: Yes, scientists have not seen it under a microscope yet. They will never see it that way probably. Only matter can be seen. All matter is made of atoms. Inside th eatoms are the numerous fundamental particles, which together occupy an insignificant portion of an atom. What is in th erest of the atom: nothing. Yet id this nothing was not there, the atom would simply collapse. This screen I am writing on would be far far less than 1% of its current size. perhaps this nothing which is responsible for everything , we can call SOUL! K. Sreekrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 1995 Report Share Posted October 15, 1995 Jaganath said: >>>>Similarly man, by today's reckoning, has existed for about seven thousand years or so. But there is an entire book called Forbidden Archeology that shows evidence of man and use of weapons between seven and 55 million years ago. Accepting this as evidence would mean blowing Darwin's theory to smithereens.<<<< Accepting this evidence would be in favor of Darwin's theory as well as the Hindu (jain-Buddhist) belief. What it throws out is the traditional Christian belief. Hinduism and many other Indic religions believe in reincaranatio. Christianity believes in resurrection. All buried dead will wake up from their grave at the return of Jesus. Jesus will judge the resurrected people and decide on their eternity in paradise or in a burning hell. This resurrection will not apply to those who were not buried at the time of their death. Ofcourse those were already burnt and that's that according to Christian belief. This is the reason why burial is so sacred and is basic to Christian solvation. Scientists and the soul: Yes, scientists have not seen it under a microscope yet. They will never see it that way probably. Only matter can be seen. All matter is made of atoms. Inside th eatoms are the numerous fundamental particles, which together occupy an insignificant portion of an atom. What is in th erest of the atom: nothing. Yet id this nothing was not there, the atom would simply collapse. This screen I am writing on would be far far less than 1% of its current size. perhaps this nothing which is responsible for everything , we can call SOUL! K. Sreekrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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