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KS wrote..

 

In Tamil, it is vengdam, with a short 'e', a vowel not present in Sanskrit.

I think it is from 'veN" (white) + "kadam" (should look up in sangath thamizh

dictionary)

 

Srinivasan K

 

 

I think it is vENGgadam (with a nedil vE). That is how it is written for

vENGgadakrishNan, Sri parthasaarathy's name at Triplicane and the 10

pasurams by thirumaNGgai mannan starting with "vaanavar thaNGgaL..".

Nowadays people write their names as venkat with a short ve..

 

Dileepan wrote..

 

There is no merit to the counter claims as

the deity of thiru vEngadam is described

as maayOn (Vishnu) by the Jain poet iLangO adigaL

in Chilappathikaaram, at least 300 years before

Sri Ramanuja. Further 10 aazhvaars, (thoNdar adippodi

and Mathurakavi not included) sang in praise of

ThiruvEngadavan. These aazhvaars are again at

least 150 - 250 years prior to Sri Ramanuja.

I am not aware of any Saivite naayanmaars praising

vEngadam as a vElan site. Badri, are there any

such songs by any naayanmaars?

 

 

 

-- Dileepan

 

But there existed a controversy during the time of ramaanujar and he settled

the issue by keeping a caNGgu + chakkaram and something representing sivan

in fron of the sanctum sanctorum one night. the next morning the caNGgu +

chakkaram were found in the arms of Sri vENGgadEsa perumaaL. I heard abt

this long back. Also the vilvam leaves supposed to be a favourite for sivan

is used during a particular month for archanai at thiruppathy, i heard.

anybody from thiruppathy, pls clarify..

 

viji

vijayt

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On Wed, 25 Oct 1995 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Vijay Triplicane wrote:

>

>But there existed a controversy during the time of ramaanujar and he settled

>the issue by keeping a caNGgu + chakkaram and something representing sivan

>in fron of the sanctum sanctorum one night. the next morning the caNGgu +

>chakkaram were found in the arms of Sri vENGgadEsa perumaaL. I heard abt

>this long back. Also the vilvam leaves supposed to be a favourite for sivan

>is used during a particular month for archanai at thiruppathy, i heard.

>anybody from thiruppathy, pls clarify..

>

 

I have read this changu/chakkram incidence in a couple

Sri Ramanuja biographies. Therefore there must have

been some dispute that was settled in favor of Sri vasihnavas.

This must have been possible due to the literarcy evidence

from iLangO adigaL and aazhvaars.

 

Further, it must be noted that Sivan worship in TN must have

been after iLangO's time. There are many refernces to Lord

Vishnu in Chilappathikaaram, but none directly attributable to

Sivan. References to Sivan in earlier works is even rare.

This can be taken to indicate the absence of Saivism before the

6/7th century in TN. Murugan is the other diety of Sangam age,

not Sivan!

 

-- Dileepan