RE:Gita and Varnashrama

[Guest guest]

Mr. Krishna Prasad said:

>>>the essence of "chaturvarnyam maya srishtam"

>>- is that as per the words, it is clearly indicated

>> that "beings belonging to 4 castes were created

>>>by me according to gunas and karma"

>>>- ie. varnas are both birth based and nature based.

>>>This is the clear traditional view of all the acharyas -

>>>shankaracharya, Sri Ramanujacharya and Madhvacharya. <<<<

 

I don't see how one can equate Guna and Karma

to mean Birth and Nature.

Actually it means Nature and work.

For example the guna of gold is non reactivity

(stability), malleability and ductility.

These gunas make it suitable for being used

to make jewellery and that is how gold

works (it's Karma is jewelery). These Gunas of

gold were determined at it's birth(formation)

irrespective of what individual parent elements

that were involved in it's formation.

 

Likewise Guna of coal is ability to

produce heat (calorific value/BTU) and Karma is

it's use in runnning a steam engine. The

other forms of carbon (diamond, graphite,

fulleranes) have different gunas and serve

different karmas.

In other words Guna predisposes one

to particular type of Karma(s).

 

The varna of an individual is

determined AT birth(conception) and not

BY birth. Unless the parents are

homozugous, it is impossible to

recreate a progeny of identical

varnya. However, by carefully controlling the

contributing parents, it is possible to

increase the probability of

reproducing the Varna of the parents

in the child. This woud be similar to

controlled breeding done with animals

(pets, thoroughbred horses, homozygous

mouse etc) after numerous

inbreedings (back crossings). In a human

situation, this is nearly impossible.

 

Clearly, there is no indication in this verse

(Chaturvarnyam maya srishtam.........)

of anything to do with the Varna being

determined by birth (ie., by parents).

Gita matches with the scientific view

but not our Purvacharyas interpretation

of this verse as stated by Mr. Krishna Prasad.

K. Sreekrishna.

[Guest guest]

Krishna kalale also said:

>>> SO in essence NATURE BASED classification

>>>is SUPERIOR and MORE VALID than

>>>birth based discrimination. this is the

>>>one to be practised for treatment

>>>>and undergoing sastraic study.

This I agree a 100% and this is what I also believe

what Gita says.

Birth based discrimination was a result of

misunderstanding or manipulation

(or whatever reason) of both the Gita and

the Purusha Suktam.

K. Sreekrishna