Guest guest Posted November 3, 1995 Report Share Posted November 3, 1995 Reading today's emails I was reminded of a lecture I heard a few years ago. I do not know whether this incident is narrated in the Mahabharata or in one of the other Puranas. Krishna once on a visit to Hastinapur called Yudhishthira and Duryodhana separately to His quarters and asked Yudhishthira to find one evil soul and Duryodhana to find one good soul. Both were given a deadline of one year. The year passed and both Yudhishthira and Duryodhana came to Krishna and expressed their inability to find the person that Krishna had asked them to look for. Jaganath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 1995 Report Share Posted November 3, 1995 On Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:21:46 -0500 krsih@astro said: >I think it is a lot of baloney proselytizing about >Vaishnavism, especially about leading one's life >so nobly. Kam, artha and bogha as important as >moksha and I still have to find an individual who >reists it. Pepole choose Acharya way of life if >it befits them. I am sure none of us wanted to go to >study in Vedant schools and would send our kids to it. >Hindu puts the column since it is saleable in India. >Imagine the protests if NY Times has a religion column. >I think we should stick to Prapatti and rest of >the play on Ramanuja Anyone who thinks that Sri Vaishnavam advocates austere life is simply ignorant. Consider the 27th paasuram of Thiruppaavai that starts with "koodaarai vellum seer gOvindhaa." Here AndaaL describes the various jewels, and clothes with which the devotees adorn themselves. Then they go on to participate in a feast that includes consuming "paarchORu" (milk-rice) as ghee drips down the forearm. All of this is possible only through the pursuit of worldly wealth, which, as far as Sri Vaishnavas are concerned, is to be undertaken as service to our Lord Narayana. According to legend Thirumangai mannan pursued worldly wealth even to the extent of forcibly relieving the rich of a part of their hording. Finally, most Sri Vasihnava acharyaas go through the grahastha stage involving pursuit of worldly wealth. Therefore there is nothing incompatible between the pursuit of worldly wealth and being a Sri Vaishnava. As a matter of fact, Sri Ramanuja wanted to make everyone a Sri vaishnava, not just those who go to vEdha paatasaalai. Now, about NY Times and The Hindu; this "Uncle- Tom" decease is perhaps unique to expatriate Indians I guess. For these individuals western standards are more legitimate and must be imposed upon Indians. But I am glad that the editors of The Hindu are not persuaded by these pseudo- intellectuals. Further, what is asserted in the statement is far from widely accepted fact. Who is to say what sort of protest NY Times would face or whether The Hindu will drop this column if Indians protest. Speculations do not make facts. Finally, about "sticking to prapatti" etc.; first, the purpose of my post was to bring the URL for the On-line Hindu and its religion column to the notice of this group. If this is not of interest, the sensible thing to do is to simply ignore it. Secondly, IMHO, the article itself was more in line with the interests of a group like this (Bhakthi/prapatti) than Sri. Krish's many articles that have appeared in the course of last couple of months. Since he routinely posts opinions that are incongruent to the doctrine of bhakthi/prapatti I don't know why he continues to be part of this group and wastes his time as well as ours. Sorry, if I was blunt in this post. If I was out of line I will accept your criticisms. -- Dileepan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 1995 Report Share Posted November 3, 1995 I think it is a lot of baloney proselytizing about Vaishnavism, especially about leading one's life so nobly. Kam, artha and bogha as important as moksha and I still have to find an individual who reists it. Pepole choose Acharya way of life if it befits them. I am sure none of us wanted to go to study in Vedant schools and would send our kids to it. Hindu puts the column since it is saleable in India. Imagine the protests if NY Times has a religion column. I think we should stick to Prapatti and rest of the play on Ramanuja Krish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 1995 Report Share Posted November 3, 1995 I respect Krish's opinion and he is entitled to his opinion but how can he come to this conclusion about: >I am sure none of us wanted to go to >study in Vedant schools and would send our kids to it. >Hindu puts the column since it is saleable in India. How can krish be so sure about everybody? The purpose of posting the article which appeared in Hindu once again in my opinion (notice my opinion) served the purpose. I do not see the issue of why NY times or any other newspaper does not publish article on relegion. I feel this issue (once again in my opinion) is not the purpose of this newsgroup. bhashyam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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