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Reading today's emails I was reminded of a lecture I heard a few

years ago. I do not know whether this incident is narrated in the

Mahabharata or in one of the other Puranas. Krishna once on a visit

to Hastinapur called Yudhishthira and Duryodhana separately to His

quarters and asked Yudhishthira to find one evil soul and Duryodhana

to find one good soul. Both were given a deadline of one year. The

year passed and both Yudhishthira and Duryodhana came to Krishna and

expressed their inability to find the person that Krishna had asked

them to look for.

 

Jaganath.

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On Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:21:46 -0500 krsih@astro said:

>I think it is a lot of baloney proselytizing about

>Vaishnavism, especially about leading one's life

>so nobly. Kam, artha and bogha as important as

>moksha and I still have to find an individual who

>reists it. Pepole choose Acharya way of life if

>it befits them. I am sure none of us wanted to go to

>study in Vedant schools and would send our kids to it.

>Hindu puts the column since it is saleable in India.

>Imagine the protests if NY Times has a religion column.

>I think we should stick to Prapatti and rest of

>the play on Ramanuja

 

 

Anyone who thinks that Sri Vaishnavam advocates

austere life is simply ignorant. Consider the 27th

paasuram of Thiruppaavai that starts with

"koodaarai vellum seer gOvindhaa." Here AndaaL

describes the various jewels, and clothes with which

the devotees adorn themselves. Then they go on to

participate in a feast that includes consuming

"paarchORu" (milk-rice) as ghee drips down the

forearm. All of this is possible only through the

pursuit of worldly wealth, which, as far as Sri

Vaishnavas are concerned, is to be undertaken as

service to our Lord Narayana. According to legend

Thirumangai mannan pursued worldly wealth even

to the extent of forcibly relieving the rich of a part

of their hording. Finally, most Sri Vasihnava

acharyaas go through the grahastha stage involving

pursuit of worldly wealth. Therefore there is nothing

incompatible between the pursuit of worldly wealth

and being a Sri Vaishnava. As a matter of fact, Sri

Ramanuja wanted to make everyone a Sri vaishnava, not

just those who go to vEdha paatasaalai.

 

Now, about NY Times and The Hindu; this "Uncle-

Tom" decease is perhaps unique to expatriate

Indians I guess. For these individuals western

standards are more legitimate and must be imposed

upon Indians. But I am glad that the editors of The

Hindu are not persuaded by these pseudo-

intellectuals. Further, what is asserted in the

statement is far from widely accepted fact.

Who is to say what sort of protest NY Times would

face or whether The Hindu will drop this column if

Indians protest. Speculations do not make facts.

 

Finally, about "sticking to prapatti" etc.; first, the

purpose of my post was to bring the URL for the

On-line Hindu and its religion column to the notice

of this group. If this is not of interest, the

sensible thing to do is to simply ignore it. Secondly,

IMHO, the article itself was more in line with the

interests of a group like this (Bhakthi/prapatti) than

Sri. Krish's many articles that have appeared in the

course of last couple of months. Since he routinely

posts opinions that are incongruent to the doctrine

of bhakthi/prapatti I don't know why he continues to

be part of this group and wastes his time as well as

ours.

 

Sorry, if I was blunt in this post. If I was out of line

I will accept your criticisms.

 

 

 

-- Dileepan

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I think it is a lot of baloney proselytizing about

Vaishnavism, especially about leading one's life

so nobly. Kam, artha and bogha as important as

moksha and I still have to find an individual who

reists it. Pepole choose Acharya way of life if

it befits them. I am sure none of us wanted to go to

study in Vedant schools and would send our kids to it.

Hindu puts the column since it is saleable in India.

Imagine the protests if NY Times has a religion column.

I think we should stick to Prapatti and rest of

the play on Ramanuja

Krish

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I respect Krish's opinion and he is entitled to his opinion

but how can he come to this conclusion about:

>I am sure none of us wanted to go to

>study in Vedant schools and would send our kids to it.

>Hindu puts the column since it is saleable in India.

 

How can krish be so sure about everybody?

 

 

The purpose of posting the article which appeared in Hindu

once again in my opinion (notice my opinion) served the purpose.

I do not see the issue of why NY times or any other newspaper

does not publish article on relegion. I feel this issue (once again

in my opinion) is not the purpose of this newsgroup.

 

bhashyam

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