Guest guest Posted December 11, 1995 Report Share Posted December 11, 1995 Mani writes: * By romanticizing the Azhvaars' Vedic heritage, we make * it easy to ignore the social reality of their time as well * as ours. Consider the fact that only five centuries after * Nathamuni's revolutionary acceptance of the Thiruvaaymozhi * as another Veda, a section of Sri Vaishnavas forcefully * argued that non-brahmins cannot be acharyas to brahmins! * Is this the example set by the Azhvaars? Why then were * these great souls born amongst the entire social spectrum, * if not to show that social status meant absolutely nothing? * And that the Vedas themselves were offended by being confined * to a cloister? This "section of Sri Vaishanavas" could also be viewed as including Sri Vedanta Desikar himself. In Rahasya Traya Sara, he clearly argues why even the most devout non-Brahmin bhaktas can nver "become" Brahmins. He argues that the para-Bhaktas ought to be respected, but they cannot and should not be considered as Brahmins. He argues both from teh viewpoint of scriptures as well as "practicality" (importance of maintaining social order). >From a "naive" reading of our scriptures, it seems to me that though the scriptures speak of EQUAL accessibility of God to all members of society, it NOT imply that the MODES of which God can be attained are the same for all members. Though our 21rst century ideals may wish otherwise, many of the most eminent Sri Vaishnava scholars in history have not believed in an egalitarian society of the sort that people wish today. To say that these ancient scholars were merely conforming to the social conditiions of the time is being disingeneous to their philosphy and attitudes. Ramanuja, Vedanta Desika andother other scholars were indeed exceptional men who would have gone against the society IF they felt they believed in it AND if they believed it had Vedic authority. Ramanujachaya intended Kancipurna to be his guru and to eat his prasadam. This well known traditionally. It is also told that Kanchipurna did not want this to happen because he felt it was not proper for a Brahmin to eat the remains of a non-Brahmin (if this story is not correct, please let me know but this is what I have heard). Why would Kanchipurna feel this? Was he was merely trying to keep with social norms and sublating his "true" views? Though it is well known that Ramanuja allowed outcastes to enter Melkote, it is interesting to note that it was a few days in a year (I think it was three). Though forward in his times, by todays standards, that can hardly be considered much of an advancement. It seems to me that Ramanja was unwilling to change the social norms -- not because of practicality, but because he did not believe that it had scriptural authority (for if perceived it to have scriptual authority, I would think that he would not have had any hesitation in introducing social reforms). Though I do not know the Tamil Prabhandams well enough to say with authority, I think it is safe to say that the focus of the Prabhandams is not the correction of social evils. They have a simple message: worship God. If the Alvars truly felt that the path to moksa was the betterment of society, then this would be explicit in every paasuram. But it is not. Why? We all would like to wish our 21th century ethics and morality to be part of our ancient scriptures. ALthough I am very sceptical that our modern notion of equality are really propounded by our Vedic scriptures, it is possible, by dialetics and clever imagination to claim that our Vedas contain all that is "good." However, insofar as our acharyas are concerned, it seems to me that the problem is trickier. I think a large number of them, including the Alwars, do not hold our world view. Some demonstrate this explicitly (e.g. Vedanta Desikar in his commentaris) and others implicitly (by their action, and sometimes, inaction) If one wishes to stick to our present day notions of right and wrong, it seems very hard to accept these individuals as our acharyas, let alone incarnates of God. sk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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