Guest guest Posted December 24, 1995 Report Share Posted December 24, 1995 Dear Sri Ramadas: The material assembled by the Encyclpopedia Brittanica is unfortunately Incorrect in many areas . I compiled a series of articles few years ago as a part of my study of the Six ways of approaching Godhead (ShaN Mathas developed by Adi Sankara).I was also interested in understanding the 40 Sanskritic compositions of a great Musical composer by the name of Mutthuswami Dikshithar of South India.His Guru Ashtakam or octet of songs on his Personal God/Teacher Murugan are gems of Musical Compositions in Karnatic Music. He was a great Sri Vidya Worshipper (Upaasaka). Sri Vidya is the Mother of Murughan or Subrahmanyan. There are Vedic References to Subrahmanya in the Vedic rituals.He is one of the officiators in Yagas and Yajnaas. (Rtviks). I will be happy to summarize the highlights of Muruga Worship in India, Ceylon, Singapore, Malaysia and refer to source literature most of which is in Tamil . Arunagiri Nathar, the descendant of a Bengali Family settled in the 15th century in Tamilnadu has composed very many moving Poems in tribute to Murugan. Those poems are set in exquisite and rare Taalas or rhythmic patterns of time. The Six Famous temples for Murugan in the South (ThiruttaNi, Thirupparankunram near Mathurai, Swamimalai, Pazhani, Thirucchendur and Pazhamudir Solai ) are great pilgrim centers for Muruga Bhakthas. Arunagiri Nathar has composed hundreds of Poems on these six $and has assembled them all in a beautiful Tamil work known as Thiruppughazh or the Auspicious Praise of Muruga. It is wonderful to listen to these songs sung by experts on Thiruppugazh as they ascend the steps of the hill in Thirutthani to reach the temple. They sing one Poem at each of the steps of this smaal hill. Muruga temples are often found on the top of hills. In earlier centuries, Muruga worship protocols moved onto Sri Lanka. The famous Kadirgamam temple there is having just a Source of light, which is worshipped as Murugha . During the Pandyan kings reign, the temples for Siva and the Icons in the sanctum had the Somaaskanda figure, which included the young Skanda or Muruga seated between the Parents , Siva and Parvati. I will send offline additional particular information of interest to you and your daughter on source literature of special interet to you. The lore about Murugha as a Tamil God is steeped deep in time and legend and is vast.The whole of Skanda Puranam is about Murughan or Skanda. It is a huge puraanam. I think the Hawaiian Hindu Temple focusses on the worship of Subrahmanya.There is a tremendous amount of literature in English coming out of there under the leadership of the founder of that temple.You can access it thru internet. That may be a simpler solution to access of literature on Murughan in English.Other knowledgable members of the group following the Hawaii Temple can provide the exact Internet address. I have it in my other office and can not access it until January 2. Regards, Sadagopan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 1995 Report Share Posted December 24, 1995 On Sun, 24 Dec 95 10:36:31 UT you said: > > [.. deleted ..] >I would greatly appreciate any, and all, information you can send me. Murugan >was a name I had heard only a couple of times, and then only in a vague way, >then I read a post that he is worshipped by Srivaishnavas so I became ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >interested > To my knowledge practicing Sri Vaishnavas _do not_ worship Murugan. -- Dileepan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 1995 Report Share Posted December 26, 1995 Dear Sadagopan: I really enjoy reading your well researched articles. During discussions here with my friends in different study-groups, I am unable to clearly place the reason why Sriman Narayana's form alone is considered in our system to represent the Supreme Being. Is there any basis other than the Puranas. For example: from the principal upanishads. This question of mine was rather triggered by your reference to Shanmatha sthapana of Sri Sankaracharya (w.r.t. Murugan). While I understand Shankara himself was a Narayana worshipper, nevertheless he gave equal importance to all forms. Thank you. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 1995 Report Share Posted December 26, 1995 entharo mahAnu bhAvulu, anthariki maa vanthanamulu.... Sri Vijay writes: I am unable to clearly place the reason why Sriman Narayana's form alone is considered in our system to represent the Supreme Being. Is there any basis other than the Puranas. For example: from the principal upanishads..... As far as I know about this subject, Rig Veda has hymns on various gods (in fact, on the Shanmatha gods), Vishnu being one of the principal ones. Indra and Siva are examples of other. But Lord Vishnu is not elevated to the supreme position in Rig Veda. Here, he is acknowledged and worshipped as Yajamaanaha, the Lord of Yajnas. But in Krishna Yajur Veda (My ignorance of Shukla Yajur Veda prevents me from confidently quoting it!), Lord Vishnu gains prominence as Lord Naaraayanaa and Lord Vaasudevaa (Gaayathri - Naaraayanaaya Vidhmahe Vaasudevaaya dheemahi, thanno Vishnuh Prachodhayath). According to what I understand, the vedic basis of our Sampradhaayam are the Sri, Purusha, Naaraayana, Vishnu, Bhoo and NeeLa Sookthams. The Vaishnavaite version of Sri, Purusha and Naaraayana Sookthams differ from the smaartha version, in that certain verses are not recited or have undergone modification to be in sync with the tradition of worshipping Sriman Naaraayana as the supreme Lord. Other tributes like 'thath thvam asi', 'Ekam sadhvipraah bahudhaa vadhanthi (Rig VEda)', 'Sa EkO na ramyathE' (roughly translates to He did not enjoy it all alone) have been open to interpretation, but are also quoted by our Sampradaaya pravarthakaas as referring to Sriman Naaraayanaa only. There are other tributes that I don't remember off-hand. Another thing: Brihadhaaranyaka Upanishad is as much revered in our sampradaayam like Thaittriyam. Supposedly has some more pramaanams regarding Sriman Naaraayanaa's supremacy. There are also hymns in praise of Him in the Saama vEda. Again, I am incompetent in this subject to add any more useful information. As you have rightly said, Sri Sadagopan's well-researched article on this will shed greater (and definitely better!) light on this subject. I am looking forward to his article as much as you and everybody else. asathya Evam dur vaacham Kshandavyam ithi. Dilipan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 1995 Report Share Posted December 26, 1995 In the Vedarthasangraha, Sri Ramanuja explains how Sriyah Pati (Sriman Narayanan) alone is the Supreme Being described in the Vedas and Vedanta. The Vedas declare the nature of the Supreme Truth in many ways. Sometimes them call It Brahman (the great and glorious essence); other times they call It Sat (Being); still other times they call It Purusha, other times Vishnu, Rudra, Atma, Paramaatma, etc. How are we to reconcile all these various names? Surely they all refer to one Supreme, as the Vedas declare that there is only one Supreme Cause -- ekam eva advitIyam. Fortunately, the Vedas themselves offer a reconciliation of all these names, contained in the various Upanishads and even in the text of the Veda proper. In the Purusha Sukta, found in all four Vedas, the Supreme Brahman is described as the Being who exists everywhere. At the end of this glorious Sukta, the Purusha is described: hrISca te lakshmISca patnyau He who has Hri (Bhudevi) and Lakshmi as His eternal consorts or attributes. Similarly, in the Chhandogya Upanishad, we have the description of the Supreme Person as ``tasya yatha kapyaasam pundarikam eva akshini'' -- His eyes have the beauty of the petals of a lotus, just unfolding under the rays of the sun and crowning a rich stalk. In all religious literature, only Vishnu is addressed as the ``lotus-eyed one''. There are even more direct Veda vaakyas. For example, in the Rig Veda, we see tad viSNOh paramam padam, sadaa paSyanti sUrayah -- the enlightened seers always perceive the supreme abode of Vishnu, a reference to the nitya suris. A similar reference is found in the Katha Upanishad. The Taittiriya Aranyaka explicitly reconciles all the various names of the Supreme found in the Vedas and encompasses them all under the term ``Narayana'' in the Narayana Sukta. Taking note of the terms Sat, Brahman, Atma, Akshara, all found in the Upanishads, the Sukta goes on to declare viSvam naaraayaNam devam All is Narayana. and sa brahmA sa SivaH sendraH sO 'ksharaH paramaH svaraaT Narayana is Brahma, Siva, Indra, the Imperishable, the Supreme Independent. These two vaakyas clearly enunciate the principle that the concept of Narayana encompasses all other deities. Even otherwise, the etymological meaning of the word Narayana has perhaps the deepest philosophical significance of any name of God, over and above even the terms Vishnu Siva, Brahma, Indra, etc. The latter terms respectively mean ``pure'', ``great'', and ``king'', and are applicable to any number of things, including the individual self. However, Narayana means ``That in which all creatures rest'', which by implication can only refer to the Supreme. It is true that the Vedas themselves often praise other gods. However, usually these are in the context of the Vedic sacrifice, which is not the highest essence of Vedic teaching. When it comes to the purely philosophical portions, it is quite clear that the personality to which the vaakyas refer is only Narayana. Of course, we should not ignore the Bhagavad Gita, considered by all Vedic acharyas as the essence of the Vedas. With this immense Vedic tradition behind them, it is a wonder that some people call Sri Vaishnavas closed-minded for choosing to worship only Narayanan! Mani P.S. This is not to say that the other forms of worship, be it Saivism, worship of Devi, Christianity, etc., are devoid of significance! Rather, we can only say that they are not as firmly rooted in Vedic tradition as is the concept of Narayana. Naturally, Truth can be found outside the text of the Vedas, lending authority to the various different creeds that exist. The only point being made here is that the Vedas and Divya Prabandham describe the Ultimate Truth as Narayana and sanction worship of God conceived in those terms. P.P.S. As someone else has noted, even Sankaracharya considered usd the name Narayana when referring to God. Many stotras are ascribed to him when he may or may not have authored. However, in his undisputed authentic works, such as his commentaries on the Upanishads, Gita, and Brahma-sutras, he invariably refers to Narayana as the Supreme Essence. His immediate disciples do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 1995 Report Share Posted December 27, 1995 Sri Ramesh Srinivasaraghavan writes: "avaravar ...." I think it is one of the stanzas in the "mudal patthu" of tiruvaimozhi. I also remember that these ten verses were quite a tongue-twister. I am sure the learned scholars who write in this group will clarify this point better. I have also heard from learned scholars that worship of other Gods involve such rajasic (and even tamasic) rituals that, it would be shocking to most of us today..... ---- 1. True, that stanza is from Thiruvaaimozhi. It goes: 'avaravar thamathama tharivari vagaivagai, avaravar irayavar ena adi adaivargaL, avaravar irayavar kuraivilar irayavar, avaravar vidhivazhi adaya ninranarE' Simply put, Sri Nammaazhvaar shows his parama kaarunyam (tolerance) towards other forms of worship (not resorting to bigotry or passing derogatory comments), while still maintaining the greatness of Sri Vaishnavam. He says that people realize in their own ways and attain their own gods they worship, their gods not being in any way inferior, they attain salvation according to their destinies. 2. If the remark is regarding Lord Muruga's worship, I would like to place before you the actual thatthva behind the 'commonly known as warlord's creation by Lord Shiva. Shiva, whose chief characteristic is his constant meditation on Sriman Naaraayanaa (the supreme source of power - Adi paraa shakti), as a tapasvi, creates Murugan (also called Shanmukhan - six-faced) with the sole purpose of saving devaas from the troublesome asura brothers - Soorapadhman and Singhamukhan. The six faces of Lord Murugan are the 5 faces of Lord Shiva - Roudhram, agOram etc. plus the shakti of Lord Naaraayanaa without which the universe cannot function. This power of Lord Vishnu is always needed by Lord Shiva whenever he needs to rescue devaas from such a crisis. Since the very purpose of creation of this anti-demonical force is for waging a war against that force, it has become a general belief that Murugan represents Raajasic qualities and so do his worshippers. Absolutely untrue. Murugan's qualities are as saathvic as his uncle (relationship arrived at from the age old definition that shakti as Vishnu's sister is married off to Shiva) Vishnu's. Murugan became a popular god with the common folk because of: a) folk-lore in His praise becoming popular b) the belief that He showers his blessings to even the least-devoted and is the cause of prosperity of the land (skanda puraanam depicts that he converted the vanquished Soora into sEval (cock) flag and His vehicle - peacock). The story of Lord Ayyappan (Hari-Hara putran)'s creation is quite similar except for the myth that Lord Vishnu takes the feminine form Mohini to combine his powers with Lord Shiva's. This is as much as I know about Lord Murugan. I entirely agree with the fact that Sri Vaishnavaites need not even have to know these myths, let alone to them or include Lord Murugan in their worship. Divya Dampathis are everything to Sri Vaishnavaas. Sarvam Sri KrishnaarpaNamasthu. Dilipan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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