Re[2]: MURUGAN

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Re: MURUGAN

Author: D2C30T8 at Internet-Mail

12/27/95 4:39 PM

 

 

Sri Ramesh Srinivasaraghavan writes:

 

"avaravar ...."

 

I think it is one of the stanzas in the "mudal patthu" of

tiruvaimozhi. I also remember that these ten verses were quite a

tongue-twister. I am sure the learned scholars who write in this group

will clarify this point better.

 

I have also heard from learned scholars that worship of other Gods

involve such rajasic (and even tamasic) rituals that, it would be

shocking to most of us today.....

----

Radhe Krishna ! Salutations to all !

 

Sri Dileepan writes ...

 

1. True, that stanza is from Thiruvaaimozhi. It goes:

 

'avaravar thamathama tharivari vagaivagai,

avaravar irayavar ena adi adaivargaL,

avaravar irayavar kuraivilar irayavar,

avaravar vidhivazhi adaya ninranarE'

 

Simply put, Sri Nammaazhvaar shows his parama kaarunyam (tolerance)

towards other forms of worship (not resorting to bigotry or passing

derogatory comments), while still maintaining the greatness of Sri

Vaishnavam. He says that people realize in their own ways and attain

their own gods they worship, their gods not being in any way inferior,

they attain salvation according to their destinies.

>Thanks for pointing out that pasuram. You have very aptly shown the

paramakaaruNyam of aazhwar and his tolerance.

 

 

2. If the remark is regarding Lord Muruga's worship, I would like to

place before you the actual thatthva behind ...

>My mail was not really regarding worship of Lord Muruga.

Maybe, my mail subject was misleading, but I was referring to the

Srivaisnava-opinion towards worship of devathantharam, in general.

When I read the reply to Raymond Crawford's query, I felt that the

phrase _DO_NOT_WORSHIP_ were not strong enough. I therefore

emphasized that reply, by replacing the above phrase by,

_SHOULD_NOT_WORSHIP_. Ofcourse, I also went ahead and tried to

substantiate the above, with my limited knowledge and understanding.

 

 

[ ... mythology deleted ...]

 

> I think these Puranas are not considered as PramaaNa by the

SriVaisnavaites.

 

I entirely agree with the fact that Sri Vaishnavaites need not even

have to know these myths, let alone to them or include Lord

Murugan in their worship. Divya Dampathis are everything to Sri

Vaishnavaas.

>I just want to reiterate that I was not implying that worship of

Murugan or some specific diety is Rajasic or Un-Sattvic. I was

speaking more generally about the SriVaisnava-opinion towards

devataantara worship.

 

Sarvam Sri KrishnaarpaNamasthu.

 

Dilipan

 

 

adiyen Madurakavidasan,

Ramesh Srinivasaraghavan