Guest guest Posted March 19, 1996 Report Share Posted March 19, 1996 Sri Ramadas writes * As far as the question ''But what is the point? Is this vast * reading and erudition going to grant us Moksham?'' is * concerned, without a full understanding of the unlimited * attributes of the Lord, then how can we have any understanding * of faith and belief? Don't you think it is a contradiction to say "unlimited attributes" and "a full understanding" of them by us? Anything unlimited cannot be comprehended in full. If it can be comprehended completely it is not "unlimited". A full understanding of the attributes of the Supreme person is impossible for any of us. Even Sruti uses "Neti Neti" to describe Him. If further quotation is needed, Upanishad says "Yatho vAcho nivartante apraapya manasaa saha Aanandam BrahmaNo Vidvaan...." (Taittiriyam - Brahmaanandavalli). So much for a full understanding! A little knowledge of the attributes of the Lord is enough to foster Bhakti. Bhakti it is that can take us closer to the Lord. A Bhakta finds joy in the auspicious qualities of the Lord. Any time spent in carping criticism is time taken away from the anubhava of the Lord deep in the heart for the bhakta. For a Bhakta - faith is not something he needs to prove using arguments. He sees the Lord and his absolute dependance on him - he sees nothing else - sees no need to reject anything else - since nothing else exists other than the Lord. This does not make the Bhakta a person of zero intellect. He has simply understood the quintessence of the Scriptures and the writings of the Great ones. The Quintessence is the Lord - and if one needs a further quote - "Vedaischa sarvair ahameva vedyo vedaanta krit veda videva chaaham" (Srimad Bhagavad Gita CH 15). The problem is focus. This group is called "Bhakti". It is called "Prapatti". A Prapanna is one who has surrendered to the Lord absolutely. Where is the scope or necessity for him to prove anything or to criticize any faith. A Prapanna spends his time singing the glories of the Lord and listening to His Greatness. There is also an article from another learned person about my mentioning the PAsuram of PeyAzhwaar. Again, what is not needed here is a rigid logical proof of one form being fit/unfit for a deity. If we can invoke "Bhavana" in our hearts - these proofs/ criticisms become trivial. But I realize there are many who will always want to indulge in these and play with words. Perhaps my point is out of place here. Krishnaanusmaranam param. ----- End Included Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 1998 Report Share Posted October 1, 1998 Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Mail Delivery Subsystem MAILER-DAEMON Returned mail: User unknown Nedchari Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:49:03 -0400 (EDT) from root@localhost *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The AOL address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----". The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----". The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail administrator. --AOL Postmaster ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <bhaktierrors ----- Transcript of session follows ----- .... while talking to lists1.best.com.: >>> RCPT To:<bhaktierrors <<< 550 <bhaktierrors... User unknown 550 <bhaktierrors... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- Received: from Nedchari by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6XQJa22759 for <bhaktierrors; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Nedchari Return-path: <Nedchari Message-ID: <1f155654.3613f8cf Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:49:03 EDT bhaktierrors Mime-Version: 1.0 Swami Desikan's thirunakshtram Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sriman NigamAnta MahA DEsikayanama: Dear Bhaktas and Swami DEsikan's sishyAs: It was very refreshing and satisfying to start Thiru Aradhanam with recitation of Prabhanda sAram, Adaikkala pattu, etc and stotras as Hayagriva stotram, Sri stuti, DasAvatAra stotram, Nyasa dasakam etc. My grand father Nedathur Veera- raghavachariar, his brother, Krishnamachariar wereresponsible for maintaining a temple for Swami Desikan and Adivan Satagopan in Nellore, to which was later added a Sannidhi for Srinivasar so that the Thiru Nakshatram (SAttumurai) could be celebrated on a grand scale with MangalAsasanam. For the past 30 years I have been doing kainkaryam for this festival to keep up the family tradition though I have not been physically present there. However I have pleasant memories of going everyday during the 10 day festival and participating in stotra pAta pArAyanam. I am so happy to read the contributions of all the members on our heritage and the rich sampradayam our Guru parampara left for us. I congratulate all of you for celebrating Swami Desikan's Tirunakshatram by contributing these articles. DEsikan ThiruvadigaLe Saranam. Narasimhan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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