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I started this when a friend requested a word-for-word translation

of the two verses Badri criticized. As I prepared the translation I

realized that the verses did not appear offensive to me. But then it

is in the eyes of the beholder. If one chooses to view these as

offensive, then they probably will appear as such. See for

yourself.

 

 

-- pd

 

p.s. The meanings I have provided below contain some technical

details about which I have no knowledge. I am just reproducing

them here.

 

 

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Ramanuja 100 anthaathi Verse No. 99:

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thaRkach samaNarum saakkiyap pEykaLum thaazsadaiyOn

soRkaRRa sOmbarum sooniya vaatharum naanmaRaiyum

niRkak kuRumpusey neesarum maaNdanar neeNilaththE

poRkaR pakam em iraamaa Nnusamuni pOnthapinnE.

 

 

thaRkach samaNarum : Jains given to empty arguments

 

saakkiyap pEykaLum : Sankyaas (Bhuddists) who

contest their guru Bhuddha, thus

pEy (demons) [1]

 

thaazhsadaiyOn soRkaRRa : Those who follow the agamaas

sOmbarum of Sivan; they are sOmbar

(lazy) because they do not bother

to understand Siva's limitations

 

sooniya vaatharum : Sankyaas who do not contest

Bhuddha (as opposed to the other

Sankyas mentioned above)

 

naanmaRaiyum niRkak : The ignoble who accept

kuRumbusey neesarum vEdhaas, but misinterpret them

 

maaNdanar neeNilaththE : (All the above mentioned) died,

i.e. vanquished from this earth

 

poR kaRpakam em iraamaa : after our Paarijaatha --

nusamuni pOnthapinnE Ramanuja, appeared

 

 

[1] The commentary by Uththamoor Sri Veeraraghavaachaari lists

four groups of followers of Bhudda, True Sankyas, Yogaacharan,

Sowdhrandhigan, and Vaibhashikan. Except for the true Sankyas,

the other three, it seems, contested and modified Bhuddhas

teachings. For this reason, Uththammor Swamy says, Amudhanaar

characterized them as demons. Let me anticipate a question and

add that Sri Ramanuja left Yadavaprakasa and became a disciple

of the disciples of Alavandhaar.

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Thondaradippodi aazhvaar's Thirumaalai, verse No. 8:

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VeRuppodu samaNar muNdar vithiyilsaak kiyargaL, ninpaal

poRuppari yanagaL pEsil pOvathE nOya thaaki

kuRippenak kadaiyu maakil koodumEl thalaiyai aangE,

aRuppathE karumam kaNdaay arankamaa nakaru LaanE!

 

 

VeRuppodu samaNar : Resentful (of accepting our Lord)

muNdar Jains

 

vithiyil saakkiyargaL : Sankyas who reject divinity

 

ninpaal : about you (my Lord)

 

poRuppari yanagaL pEsil : if they talk unbearable ills

 

pOvathE nOya thaaki : that in and of itself is a disease;

 

kuRippenak adaiyu maakil : if I get a chance

koodumEl

 

thalaiyai aangE, : I shall make it my duty to cut

aRuppathE karumam their (Jains and Sankyas

kaNdaay mentioned above) heads off

(figuratively, of course, and

relieve them of their disease

mentioned above)

 

arankamaa nakaru LaanE! : O! Lord of Sri Rangam.

 

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On Wed, 20 Mar 96 22:23:40 EST I said:

>

>saakkiyap pEykaLum : Sankyaas (Bhuddists) who

> contest their guru Bhuddha, thus

> pEy (demons) [1]

>

>sooniya vaatharum : Sankyaas who do not contest

> Bhuddha (as opposed to the other

> Sankyas mentioned above)

 

 

In the above Sankyas must be "Saakyaas". I regret the

error. I now understand the two terms are different.

 

 

-- pd

 

 

p.s. Thanks Mani for letting me know.

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