Guest guest Posted March 28, 1996 Report Share Posted March 28, 1996 I have really enjoyed the conversations and have learned so much from them. I would only like to add that there is a marvellous example of maDal in KuruntOkai 17 -- the following is a translation by A.K. Ramanujan: When love is ripe beyond bearing and goes to seed, men will ride even palmyra stems like horses; will wear on their heads the reeking cones of the erukkam bud like flowers; will draw to themslves the gossip of the streets; and will do worse. There are some beautiful verses on madal in Tiruvaymoli (5.3.9 and 5.3.10). A very loose (partial) translation follows: Overwhelming my modesty, my chastity, stealing my heart, the Lord of the divine ones is in the high heavens. My friend, this I swear: I shall shock all earth, I shall do weird (kONaikaL) deeds, and ride the palmyra stem [like a horse]. With no sense of shame, I shall ride that palmyra stem through every street in town ..... And I shall get from my Lord, who holds the discus in his splendid hand, a cool blossom from the tuzhai plant and adorn myself with it.... The alvars do recognize that while it is not gender-correct (according to traditional Tamil culture) for them to adopt a madal and be vociferous about their divine passion for Visnu, there are other examples of women from northern India who were very articulate in expressing their love. These women -- Vasavadatta, Sita, Vegaathi, Usha and Uma-- become the role models for the alvar (Periya Tirumadal, lines 39-70 something?). It is my understanding that the madal was an extreme step and generally even threatening it brought about results-- the town people would prevail upon the girl's family to allow the marriage to take place. Thanking you once again for your discussions, Vasudha Narayanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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