Guest guest Posted April 3, 1996 Report Share Posted April 3, 1996 Dear Bhagavathas, I read in the latest issue of Indian Economic and Social History Review an article by A.Srvathsan about the persecution of Ramanuja by Kulottunga Chola. On the basis of wider sociological connotations, he points out : (a) that Ramanuja tried to introduce reforms in srirangam temple specially a change from Vaikhansa to pancharatra and also to appoint srivaishnava brahmins to some of the posts in temple administration which were earlier held by others; Ramanuja also introduced involvement of non-brahmins in temple administration which caused anger to local elites; (b) the Kulottunga Chola was weakened due to external threats and hence he was in need of keeping local elites and chieftains happy; © in these circumstances, the only place that Ramanuja could go safely was Hoysala kingdom; it is said the Bitti Hoysala king who later seems to have been converted to vaishnavism by Ramanuja (from Jainism perhaps) and hence his name was later changed; (d) and later when Kulottunga and his son become stabilised they could rescind their earlier order of persecuting Ramanuja and so he returns to srirangam. I would be grateful to hear from our learned Bhagavathas like Dileepan, Sadagopan, Ramaswamy etc., some details about these incidents and their views. Adiyen, Anand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 1996 Report Share Posted April 3, 1996 a. prathivadi-bhayankaram-a writes: > I read in the latest issue of Indian Economic and Social History Review > an article by A.Srvathsan about the persecution of Ramanuja by Kulottunga > Chola. On the basis of wider sociological connotations, he points out : > (b) the Kulottunga Chola was weakened due to external threats and hence > he was in need of keeping local elites and chieftains happy; This is plausible, as historians are uncertain as to which Chola king persecuted Ramanuja. Kulottunga I is known to have equally supported Saiva and Vaishnava temples, and given that the traditional histories have the Chola king as an ardent devotee of Siva, it is unlikely that the persecutor was this Kulottunga. However, if his Saivism was not as fanatical as the biographies suppose, any Kulottunga could be the persecutor. On the other hand, by the time of Ramanuja's leaving Srirangam, he was already well-established as the leader of the Sri Vaishnava community, and his temple reforms had already taken root. It is therefore surprising that the anti-Ramanuja animosity among the elites could last so long as to allow the Chola king to take advantage of it! [...] > © in these circumstances, the only place that Ramanuja could go safely > was Hoysala kingdom; it is said the Bitti Hoysala king who later seems to > have been converted to vaishnavism by Ramanuja (from Jainism perhaps) and > hence his name was later changed; It is said that after Ramanuja arrived in the Hoysala kingdom, Kind Bittideva changed his name to Vishnu Vardhana Raya, and he correspondingly became an adherent of Vaishnavism. While he undoubtedly was influenced by Ramanuja, it is questionable as to whether this was a wholescale conversion from another religion. To begin with, Bittideva is simply a Kannada form of Vittaladeva, which is already a name of Vishnu. In addition, while his wife Shantala is well-known to have been a devout Jain, Kind Bittideva's military practices do not show him to be a practicant of ahimsa. Incidentally, perhaps under the influence of Ramanuja, King Bittideva constructed the marvellous Vishnu temples at Belur and Halebid. These structures represent the pinnacle of the Hoysala style of architecture. Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 1996 Report Share Posted April 4, 1996 Here are some dates from an excellent Tamil book I have on Sri Ramanujar's life by pi. sri. The dates are accepted as more or less accurate. I have given some of my own comments in the end. ----- 1012 - 1044 : Gangai koNda chOzhan 1017 - Sri Ramanujar avatharam 1044 - 1064 : Second Rajendran 1049 - Sri Ramanujar Sanyasam 1070 - 1070 : AthiRajendra chOzhan 1064 - 1070 : VeeraRajendran 1070 - 1118 : First KulOththungan 1096 - Sri Ramanujar fl (kirimikaNda chOzhan) to Mysore; Periya nambi is murdered and KUrEsar's eyes are gauged out 1118 - 1135 : First Vikrama chOzhan 1118 - Sri Ramanujar returns to Sri Rangam 1135 - 1150 : Second KulOththungan Started ruling as Crown Prince in 1133; Responsible for removing Sri Govindaraja perumaaL from the Thillai Nataraja temple; Sri Ramanujar installs Govindaraja shrine at Thiruppathi. 1137 - Sri Ramanujar's ascension to paramapadham ----- It is clear that the first and the second Kuloththunga chOzhaas (K-I and K-II) were inimical to Sri Vasihnavam. Independent evidence of this for K-II is available in the words of Ottakakkooththan, "thillaith thirumanRil munRil siRu dheyvath thollaik kuRumbu tholaith theduththu ..." (... he (K-II) eliminated the mischief of the small god (i.e. Govindaraja) by dislodging that god from the sacred hall of Thillai temple,..) There are some more passages along these lines. Citing these, some wrongly claim that K-II, and not K-I, came to be known as kirimikaNda chOzhan. They also cite that K-I, his saivite faith not withstanding, was supportive of Vaishnavam and even Jainism and Buddhism. It is in K-I's reign that Mannarkudi Rajagopala Swami temple was built. Therefore, they claim, no force was used against Sri Ramanuja or any other Sri vaishnavaas. Further, they claim, K-II removed Lord Govindaraja for making space and therefore it is not fair to criticise K-II. Well, O's verse clearly shows K-II's aversion for Sri Vaishnavam; no need for any further elaboraton. As for K-I, his nominal tolerance for Vishnu temples could very well have co-existed with his apprehension about Sri Ramanujar and his authority over spiritual matters. The detailed accounts provided by Sri Vaishnava guru parambara prabhavam cannot all be active imaginations of individuals with nothing better to do. What is to be gained by creating another bogeyman in K-I? After all, Vikrama chOzha has been praised in these accounts. They could have very well praised K-I as well and isolated K-II for all the indignation. Further, Sri Ramanujar returned only after the death of K-I and coronation of Vikarama chOzhan. This timing cannot just coincidence. At the very least K-I allowed himself to be manipulated by the malcontents led by Nalooraan. These individuals saw a spiritual revolution in the making and feared losing their power and clout. It is likely that Nalooraan felt betrayed when Amudhanar became a desciple of Kooraththaazhvaar and turned over the temple admisistration to Sri Ramanuja. Nalooraan found a willing monarch in K-I and perpetrated the horrendous crimes. Therefore, either by direct participation or due to criminal neglect, K-I must bear historical responsibility for the crimes committed against Sri Ramanuja, Sri Periya Nambi, and Sri Kooraththaazhvaar (KA). Later, Sri Ramanuja persuaded KA to pray to Lord varadaraja to get his eye sight back. However, KA prayed for "jnana" eyes with his Varadaraja Sthavam. He also prayed for Nalooraan's redemption! -- P. Dileepan Source: "sri raamaanujar," pi. sri, sudhEsamiththiran, 1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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