Guest guest Posted April 26, 1996 Report Share Posted April 26, 1996 Parthasarati Dileepan <MFPD Tue, 23 Apr 96 09:33:14 EDT kaRRavar kaamuRu seelan Parthasarati Dileepan writes: >Sri Raamaanujar Thirunakshathram: >While on a trip to Thiruvaali/Thirunagari, Sri Ramanuja >and his entourage came across an "untouchable" lady. >Sri Ramanuja requested her to move away (odhungu) >from the way so that he and his companions can pass. >The lady replied, "ulagam muzhudhum ulagaLandhaan >sannithiyaaga irukka, engE odhunguvadhu?" (all the >world is Thiru Vikraman's shrine, where can I move >away?) Sri Ramanuja immediately apologized to the >lady and offered the Vaishnava insignias to her saying, >"These should be yours, I am undeserving of them." I looked up and did not find this episode in "Guruparampara prabhavam", "Acharya Vaibhava Manjari" and "Raamaanusa nootrandhaadhi". Personally I think this is an unlikely episode for the following reasons: 1. As a child in Sriperumbudoor, he already played with untouchable children, antogonized the elders of the city. 2. At mElkOttai, and on trips moved very much in the company of the tribals. In his rescue from being murdered in Kasi he serves the tribal couple, who turn out to be perumaaL and thaayaar. 3. Later, it is mentioned that he would give uRangaavilli dhaasan (of fourth/fifth caste) the honour of helping him out of kaavEri, after his bath. Such a person and his entourage need not be enlightened once again by an untouchable lady. I think the episode is demeaning enberumaanaar. I think the episode you mentioned appears in the movie of Sri Sankara and not Sri Ramanuja. Anyway, many English books on Life of Ramanuja contain distorstions. If the episode is not in the above three books, it should not be considered authentic. If the additions were for dramatization or whatever, as in the play that I translated, it should still not contradict the above books. That is my personal opinion. K. Srinivasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 1996 Report Share Posted April 26, 1996 Sri K. Srinivasan writes: * Anyway, many English books on Life of Ramanuja contain distorstions. * If the episode is not in the above three books, it should not be * considered authentic. * You are right that many English books contain distortions. However, there is one more set of sources that provides biographical details about Ramanuja. This are the commentaries on the Divya Prabandham, particularly the 24000 on the thiruvaaymozhi by Periya Vaachaan Pillai and the 36000 (eedu vyaakhyaanam) by Vadakku Thiruveedhi Pillai. Each contain some episodes about Ramanuja not found in other works. Perhaps, time permitting, Prof. Vasudha Narayanan can enlighten us on some of these, as she has studied them in some detail. Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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