Guest guest Posted September 22, 1996 Report Share Posted September 22, 1996 My compliments on Mr. Tatachar's eloquent response to Ashwin Sairam's question on the definition of a Brahmin. I think it is important to note that, based on this discusssion, the title of Brahmin should be based solely on individual character, and not on birthright. I would like to respond the second part of the question by adding to: --------quote Lord Krishna in Bhagavadgita defines clearly the qualities or duties of a Brahmin as per the Gunas born of their own nature are: Serenity, self-restraint, austerity, purity, forgiveness, uprightness, knowledge, realization, belief in a hereafter. --------end quote Paraphrasing what I have learned from a recent conversation with Sri Tridandi SrimanNarayana Ramanuja Jeear, it is to encourage the very cultivation of the above qualities that one should conform to a vegetarian diet. The Lord states in the Geetha that certain foods can influence our gunas (a rather philosophical expansion of the concept that "you are what you eat.") Conforming to a vegetarian diet encourages the cultivation of Sattva Guna, which is the essence of what defines the noble Brahmin qualities, and more importantly, allows us to realize our true nature as the servants of the servants of our Lord. It is sadly ironic that more and more Westerners are turning towards the vegetarian way, for spiritual and health reasons, while many Asian Indians are going away from it. In my own state of Colorado, vegetarianism seems to be the "in-thing." One estimate shows that 3 - 4% of the state's population conform to the diet to some extent. I find it much easier these days to walk into a restaurant and find something on the menu that I can eat. I commend Mr. Sairam on his efforts. Daasanu Daasan, Mohan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 1996 Report Share Posted September 23, 1996 LDVR31A (MR MOHAN R SAGAR) on Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:01:01 says: >My compliments on Mr. Tatachar's eloquent response to Ashwin Sairam's >question on the definition of a Brahmin. I think it is important to >note that, based on this discusssion, the title of Brahmin should be >based solely on individual character, and not on birthright. ^^^^^^ This view is not correct. While character is certainly important, I am sure it is not stated anywhere that it is *the sole* criterion. By birth you are eligible, and by character you become one. The converse is, if one is not born a brahmin no amount of character will make him one. There is a story in Mahabharatha to illustrate this. Viswamithra is the only exception, but then he was intended to be a brahmin by *birth*, but got switched. The convertion was simply a matter of correcting the switch, not an outright change of caste. The term brahmin, or for that matter Kshathriya, or Vaisya, or Shudra, if used, must be an indication of responsiblity, not rights or status associated with "titles". Emphasizing character to become a brahmin is troublesome. Why can't one become a shudra by exemplary behavior, say like Vidura, or better yet, Nammaazhvaar. It is this Shudra's name that all Azhagiya Singars of Sri Ahobila Mutt adorn in their titles with great pride. Also, we often hear that the ultimate goal of all living beings is to reach the place from where "shudras" emanated! (adikkeezh amarndhu pugundhEnE -- nammaazhvaar) Thus, I don't know why anyone would or should want to strive hard to become a brahmin! -- Dileepan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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