Prapatti for other fruits

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Prapatti as is understood today is done only for moksha. But

Prapatti can be done for securing other fruits as well, as in the

case of Draupadi, who did so for the safety of her husbands.

 

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Prapatti involves the recognition that the Lord is both Upaya and

Upeya, and consequently, could involve no other desire than the

desire for Him. It follows, then, that Prapatti done with the

motivation to secure other fruits could not be considered Prapatti at

all.

 

I think it would be more in conformance with the nature of Prapatti

to presume that the Lord, out of His Unfathomable Compassion, will

provide whatever is best for the devotee, whether he/she desires it

or not. This is best illustrated by the Prapatti of Vibhishana. He

sought nothing other than Sri Rama's Mercy, and yet, the Lord

bestowed upon him the Kingdom of Lanka.

 

In the case of Sri Yamunacharya, there is no doubt that his heartfelt

wish was that Emperumaanaar would succeed him. However, there is no

evidence within the Stotraratna that he indicated this to the Lord in

the performance of Prapatti. The Stotraratna paradigmatically

indicates the true nature of Prapatti, desiring the Lord as the "be

all and end all." I would only presume that the Lord fulfilled

Yamunacharya's wish out of His Mercy, in the same manner as the

bestowing of a kingdom to Vibishana.

 

Daasanu Daasan,

 

Mohan

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LDVR31A (MR MOHAN R SAGAR)> wrote:

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>Prapatti as is understood today is done only for moksha. But

>Prapatti can be done for securing other fruits as well, as in the

>case of Draupadi, who did so for the safety of her husbands.

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>Prapatti involves the recognition that the Lord is both Upaya and

>Upeya, and consequently, could involve no other desire than the

>desire for Him. It follows, then, that Prapatti done with the

>motivation to secure other fruits could not be considered Prapatti at

>all.

 

Is there any evidence for this (i.e. prapatti for

other fruits is not prapatti at all) in the sampradaya

or verses such as sthOthrarathana?

 

Kaakaasuran surrendered to the Lord with only one thing in mind,

escaping the wrath of the asthram the Lord had sent after him.

Even though this prapatti was done without any recognition or

understanding that the Lord is the Upeya, Kaakaasuran was not

only saved from the asthram, but he got mOksham as well.

 

 

-- Dileepan

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>Prapatti involves the recognition that the Lord is both Upaya and

>Upeya, and consequently, could involve no other desire than the

>desire for Him. It follows, then, that Prapatti done with the

>motivation to secure other fruits could not be considered Prapatti

at

>all.

 

Is there any evidence for this (i.e. prapatti for

other fruits is not prapatti at all) in the sampradaya

or verses such as sthOthrarathana?

 

Kaakaasuran surrendered to the Lord with only one thing in mind,

escaping the wrath of the asthram the Lord had sent after him.

Even though this prapatti was done without any recognition or

understanding that the Lord is the Upeya, Kaakaasuran was not

only saved from the asthram, but he got mOksham as well.

 

 

-- Dileepan

 

The Rahasya Traya Sara as well as a number of chillarai Rahasyas of

Swami Desikan discusses the question of Prapatti exhaustively.

Prapatti is a valid method per shastras for obtaining any fruit one

wants similar to a Satyanarayana puja or a temple archana. Swami

Desikan asks, "If Prapatti can obtain moksha itself which cannot be

obtained by any other method (well almost), can it not deliver other

fruits which are comparatively insignificant?"

 

The reason that Prapatti is not used (thankfully) for other fruits is

because of so much disinformation spread about it. I am not

referring to any postings on the net but conversations with my

relatives and other people born in families that descended from

Srivaishnavas. Also the handful of people who can do Prapatti will

not do it for anything other than moksha.

 

Jaganath.