Guest guest Posted October 23, 1996 Report Share Posted October 23, 1996 1. NAMA Home Page address requested by one of the members, is as follows: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/chari/ 2. Sri Krishna Kalale had asked a question about Swayamaachariyaars. My response is based on the fact that both my grandfathers were Swayam Achaaris following Vadagalai Sampradaayams. As you all are aware, there are Swayam Achaaris in both Sampradaayams (Thengalai and Vadagalai). This concept of Vadagalai and Thengalai sampraadaayams as well as Swayam Acharyas exists in Hebbar Iyengars, Madras (Keezh Naatu-Southern Region) Iyengars, etc. My husband's family (Vadagalai Hebbar Iyengars) are followers of Sri Ahobila Matam. One of my sisters is married to a person who belongs to Thengalai Hebbar Iyengar Swayam Acharyas tradition. The senior most Patriach in the family is considered the Acharya for performing some of the initiations--Brahmopadesham, Samaarshanam etc. On my paternal grandfather side, they are from Thirumalai Nallan Chakravarthy lineage. I remember my father mentioning a relative (pangaali) in Salem as their Acharya. My maternal grandfather is from Thozhappa Kumara Thirumalai Nambi lineage. Both families followed the sampradaayam of paying respect to Sri Ramanuja and Sri Desikan as is in any Vadagalai tradition. From my little understanding, the difference between the Swayamacharyas and Matam followers is that the later's Acharya is the Matam head. It appears that the distinction started in earlier times to accomodate localization that resulted because of limited people mobility and regional political and religious influences. Families were living near by and frequent visits were feasible. Hence the senior most patriach who was very learned and knowledgable took upon the role of the Acharya. Also, the Matams are relatively new. Yes, in modern times distance is not as much a hindrance. However, poor family tree documentation and imbibed traditions are major factors in continuation of certain traditions. However, I am not sure that it is easy to keep track of the family tree due to extended family tree, lost relatives and geographical separation. Acharyas by definition implies a very knowledgable teacher. On my father's side, none of the brothers are alive. None of my cousins are even close to following traditions. As a result, Swayam Acharyas claim by the male lineage is purely academic. I hope that the kowledgeable members of this group will present logical and detailed explanations than the superficial explanation I have provided herein. Nagalakshmi (Nagu) Satyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 1996 Report Share Posted October 24, 1996 Dear Bhakthas, It was interesting to read Sri.Nagu's article on Swayamacharyas. The tradition exists in numerous Vadagalai Iyengars(it is quite common in Thengalai Iyengars as well) in every region of Tamizh Nad as well. For example our Acharya hails from Kumbakonam('Agnihotram Ramanuja Thathachariar') and he has quite a lot of followers in the Vadakalai tradition especially among 'Bharadwaja Gothra' lineage. Same with 'Sri Muthali Andavan' of Kondapalayam(near Sholinghur) who commands quite a lot of followers in Thenkalai tradition. Also there is a difference within 'Ahobila Matam' and 'Andavan Ashram' in terms of 'Matam parampariyam' and 'Munithriya Parampariyam'. But whatever they follow it is quite true to say that all 'Vadakalai Sampridayam' accept 'Bharanyaasam' as a phase of their life. May be some knowledgeable person of this group can tell us some more details about the fine qualities/differences between the different 'Parampariyams' of Sri Vaishnavas for us to know and accept an approach, since I know that that several people switch between these 'parampariyams'. Dasan, Sudarsan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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